|Candace Smith (#47080262)|
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I am a southern girl (and being 64, I use the term loosely!) who has been at this genealogy thing for many years. I love cemeteries and find them as beautiful as any park with the added bonus of beautiful markers and a 1000 stories. So naturally I love this site! I live in Savannah, Georgia so I have a lot to explore.|
I am excited to add new photos and search the site for "missing" family members!! Candace S
Family names..Morgan, Thompson, Shiver, Fulghum, Jeffers, Elder, Belford, Winterbotham, Coss to name a few......
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|Tree Leaf||Thank you|
Thank you for updating the links, and for calling my attention to 'the twins' - the other twin did not come up on Ancestry and would not have been immediately obvious. Now they are all 'together' here.
I have obtained Sina's obituary. It is very brief, if you would like me to, I can type it and send it in her edit panel.
|Tree Leaf||RE: Rosina, Rozina Hastings|
Hello. I have conferred with a family member, the one you mentioned from the other site; and I have someone local who found the obituary for the other twin. (They tried to send it but it didn't work but I should have a copy of that hopefully next week.)
They both confirmed that there were two girls, twins. So may I add back James and Julia's daughter, please?
The info I have is that the twins were Rozina and Rosina but it was with a hard "z" sound and a soft "s" sound. They were two different women, but twins. That is why the same birthdate/place but the different death/marriage information.
So I think it is safe for me to add that to their parents' pages, and for you to link them both to their parents...if you do not object. What do you think?
Thank you so much for the picture on Howard Thompson Goodman's site - it's wonderful. I am another 60+ year old genealogist who lived in Georgia for my working career, but moved home since then. I wish I would have taken pictures of all those old sites when I lived in Georgia!
Added by Shawdau on May 17, 2015 1:43 PM
|Virginia Wilson Bailey||Clara Octavia Solomon|
I noticed that you placed a photo of Clara on her FindAGrave Memorial. I have the exact photo of her that was passed down from my grandmother, Mittie Jester Willett Huggins. Mittie is the dau. of Mattie L. Willett 1844-1929. Mattie is Clara's sister.
If you are related to this family in anyway, I have some photos that were found in the attic of my mother-in-law, Fannie Elizabeth Huggins Boyet. They were passed down from her mother. I can not find out who they are and believe that they might be some of the family from Maine. Maybe, Nickles, Stanley or others.
I would love to share and identify these photos with other family members. They are in fair condition and are large in size for that time.
Let me know if you are part of this family.
|Tree Leaf||RE: Rosina, Rozina Hastings|
Good sleuthing! Thank you. That DOES explain it.
I know that person. She is a cousin. She does good work. But she is rarely on email or online, any more. So I didn't even try to reach her. I was going to email a different cousin on that side, next week, after the holiday weekend was over with.
So my early theory was right? I thought my theory was a bit 'out there...' Yes it's very possible that a neighbor gave the info or something and the census taker thought they were crazy for saying there are two girls the same age with the name Rosina/Rozina. (And I mean, who names twins the same name?)
I sent you an email btw, not sure if you saw it. After I sent the email I worked that line for William H. all night long! Lol. I added a bunch of stuff to Ancestry and sent a bunch of info to pages here. It'll help someone even if I'm not related.
So, see, by asking me about that one dilemma, maybe it wound up helping lots of other people, so thank you. :)
But anyway, I found a tiny mention of a trip "Rosa and her sister Sina" went on. And I wondered if that could be 'our girls' - so maybe they were both Rosina/Rozina and that's how they told each other apart as younger women? But then once her sister died, the other one went by Rozina again.
It's quite a story! So, what do you think - should we add them both to their parents' pages? And I can update the bios if you think that's good.
|Tree Leaf||RE: Rozina|
Yes a puzzle for sure...I wonder if more than one little girl got the middle name of Rosina (I'm guessing someone on their mother's side, with that name, was important to the family)? Because Zena E in the census (1900,I think) has to be Elizabeth...was her middle name Rosina or Zena and that's what she went by later, was her middle name? It's odd...
I haven't heard of this Penney woman, to be honest with you; I kinda still think their daughter Rosina married Mr Pine. There's a fair amount of documentation on Ancestry for that. So I still think the 1939 death date was James/Julia's daughter, since that's the one who married Mr Pine. But the rules here are that I must disprove your correction not vice versa. (I wish all the people I send corrections to knew that. Lol. Kidding)
I had thought you were local due to the local photos you had taken. I don't know much about Baylis. I do have ancestors from there. I'm related on the Hasting side.
|Tree Leaf||RE: Rosina, Rozina Hastings|
OK one last message before you get back to me on this. As you know the 1890 census was destroyed in fire throughout the USA. That would be the key one in this case. But the 1900 census has a Rozina Hastings, born Sept. 1884, 15 years old; that pulls up a whole slew of Rosina or Sina Hastings Pine entries on the right side of the census listing. So, Ancestry seems to think the Sept 1884 person is Rosina Pine.
Then there is a Zena E Hastings, age 13. She was born April 1887 according to the 1900 census. She pulls up listings of Elizabeth or Lizzie Potter to the right of the census.
But if they both went by Sina or Zena, maybe one fudged her birth date at one point in time? Still not sure but I don't find anything on Ancestry (doesn't mean it isn't there) at a quick glance, for a Rosina Hastings Penney. How well do you know the person who typed out the obituary for you? I'd find the original obituaries for both, and/or death certs, they will let you look at those for free at the courthouse I think. I think Rosina Pine was their daughter, but for now I will leave it as you suggested, until we figure this out, I guess. And sorry for so many messages but I'm exhausted but couldn't rest til I had done what I could on this. LAST thing I want to do is put the wrong person on the page...but I honestly did not have her married name on her parents' pages to start with...and Ancestry has Rosina Pine as their daughter.
|Tree Leaf||Curiouser and Curiouser|
OK I'm looking closer and there is an Illinois Death Index listing, for Rosina Hastings Pine, which I was going to post to the 'scrapbook' section of the memorial page but it seems they don't have that on here after all? (Someone in the forums mentioned that's where to post things that aren't grave or personal photos.) But you can find it on Ancestry.
That IL Death Index listing has her parents as James Hastings and Julia "Whitthund." And her death and burial date in October 1939.
But I'm still confused since your message posted on my profile said that I had Rosina Pine listed as James/Julia's daughter? Her father's bio only says he had several children. Her mother's bio did not have her children's married names - for Rosina I changed it to Rozina and died 1980 instead of 1939 but there was no married name to remove. So that part of the message isn't accurate. I hadn't had Rosina Pine pinned to the find a grave page at all. I don't own either Rosina/Rozina page so I have no ability to do that.
So now I am back to being confused, there do seem to be two Rosina/Rozinas. Could they have been twins? Twins did run in the family. I am going to ask an older relative, though I can't promise he will know. Meanwhile maybe you can get the original copy of both women's obituaries if you are local, or peek at their death certs. at the county courthouse if local. I can only access what is online. That's, if you wish to. Now the mystery is bugging me too. Lol
|Janice Hollandsworth||Robert Burgner|
Thank you for taking the time to get this photo request for me. I appreciate it.
|Heather Cottrell||Robert and Ina Powell|
Thanks very much for submitting the photos for Robert and Ina Armstrong's memorial pages. Your efforts are much appreciated!
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