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John Augustus Baum (1840-1842)
Oakwood Cemetery, Troy, New York
Dates legible, but names chiseled off completely. It actually proved possible to determine with a reasonable degree of certainty why it was that the names had been chiseled away.
Frederick Biehler (1853-1889)
Fisher Cemetery (St. Matthew Lutheran Cemetery), Bethlehem, New York
An obituary used a name for this Albany patrolman's cemetery that's a name nobody today knew at all; once identified, extant church records were crucial for confirmation. Killed in the line of duty, yet his name isn't included on the NYS Police Officers Memorial as it should be; only the Albany Police can submit his name, yet the Chief evidently doesn't care to do so.
Joel Covington, Sr (1830-1911)
Hebron Cemetery, Clio, South Carolina
It's not every day one can fulfill a photo request for a picture of the person (rather than of the headstone) with a picture of the person standing by his own headstone.
James Harty (1835-1853) A headstone, most of the inscription crumbled away to dust, though with "Lafayette Engine Co. No. X" still showing. It still proved possible to identify the deceased even without a legible name or date. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=116765809
Millie Levy (1887-1888)
Beth Emeth Cemetery, Bethlehem, New York
A name only inscribed; no dates. It turned out she's the granddaughter of a Rabbi.
Emil "Soup Greens" Siefert (d. 1896)
Evergreens Cemetery, Brooklyn, NY
Allegedly his grave is marked just by parsley! If it's unmarked today, see if you can plant some soup greens for him?
Charles Smith (1821-1875)
Beth Emeth Cemetery, Bethlehem, New York
Almost entirely illegible due to wear, discoloration, and biological growths; the headstone was identified in large part by process of elimination with reference to past transcriptions.
Helen Lowray Snow (1842-1845) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=102774270. The photo and linked story are both poetically apropos, I hope.
Laura Wise (1847-1849)
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=103839199 No recognizable headstone, location of grave unknown, no burial records. Cracked - but not quite solved.
Does NYS Governor Frank Swett Black (1843-1913) have no monument at all?
Where are headstones or monuments (if any) for Cornelius Jacobsen May, Willem Verhulst, Peter Minuit, Sebastiaen Jansen Krol, Wouter van Twiller, Willem Kieft, Francis Lovelace, Anthony Colve, Edmund Andros, Anthony Brockholls, Thomas Dongan, Francis Nicholson, Jacob Sloughter, Richard Ingoldesby, Benjamin Fletcher, Richard Coote, John Nanfan, Edward Hyde, John Lovelace, Gerardus Beekman, Robert Hunter, William Burnet, John Montgomerie, Rip Van Dam, William Cosby, George Clinton, Danvers Osborn, Henry Moore, James Robertson, and Andrew Elliot?
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|Catskill123||RE: Ezra Bronk|
I stopped by the Bronk Museum today, but they were closed. I'll stop again tomorrow and find the information for you. It was written in his military file and on information found at the library.
|Clytie Somers||George Nelson & Elbert Harger|
did you get photos of these two when you got Eliza's? Perhaps you could put them up. Thank you clytie
|Clytie Somers||Eliza Harger and Daniel G. Broadway|
Could you please add photo to Daniel Broadway, or let me divide the photo and add them to the memorials individually? Your photo is very clear. Thank you
|Paul Adrian Lyon||Lemin Lyon grave at Albany|
Lyon Lemuel Leh Leman Lyman Lemon 1796
my great great great grandfather - by Paul Adrian Lyon born 1957 Blackpool, England.
birth implied variously as 1790-92-96 I'll stick with 1796 for brevity.
his forename was variously depicted as Lemuel, Samuel, Leman, Lyman, S, etc. and on the handwritten 1841 census as a scrawl
transcribed in 3 differnt ways as Leh, Lela and Levi by different transcribers.
On websites some people have picked up the Leh transcription and then describe him with that moniker. I do not think that it
is an accurate name for him, but I will show it sometimes because it helps in cross-referencing.
Immigrant. From foreign parts. Later in life he gave his place of birth as Germany on different documents. I found a
mention of Baden on a blog but I have absolutely no corroboration of that and, anyway, there seem to be a lot of Baden
variations on first look.
Presumably he married Elizabeth1801 by 1824. She had surname Lyon before marriage too - helped confuse me for a while.
There is a chance that he moved to Gillingham/Chatham in Kent, England, at about 1825-26 between the births of his first
2 sons, on the other
hand it might have even been after 1827 and more towards the 1835 when Rosetta is shown born in Kent.
After 1843, and before 1846, he Elizabeth and Rosetta emigrated to USA.
In 1855 they are shown as having lived in Albany, New York state, for 9 years.
Rosetta is not shown on 1860 US census - had she gone back to England to marry a Cohen?
About his death:-
Lemuel/Leh seems to have stopped paying contributions at the Chatham synagogue during 1843 but the ledger seems to have booked
him another couple of years owing that were never paid. I hold no hope of figuring that out. Elizabeth is then given her
own subscription ledger page, solo, from May 1862. Hence it could be a small window of time within which Leh/Lemuel
disappears - most likely dies - between 1860 6th September census and May 1862 confirmed return of Elizabeth to England.
I've always assumed that Lemuel died in US, prompting the return of his wife to live with family in England, and have no
no reason to suspect otherwise.
Elizabeth and a Rosetta were shown back in England at 1871 census. It might be the same Rosetta, maybe
not, as some details are ambiguous.
Relevant to the name variances:- his eldest son named his own first son “Lemuel” which, in Jewish tradition is often a sign
that the child's grandfather's name was Lemuel. However, as I understand it, Jews used as many as 3 forenames because they
used different forenames depending on the formality, hence his use of Leman at times and being depicted as Leman on
Elizabeth's tombstone. Our own anglo-saxon culture harbours some similar vascillation at times - for example I've seen a
baby christened Elizabeth appear as a child declared as Betsy, morph to Lizzie as a teenager then revert to Elizabeth in adulthood,
all as recorded on formal documents.
I have details of several dozen descendants including a handful that made their way to USA.
Thanks so much for getting these photos for me. I really appreciate your time, effort and volunteer spirit!
Smiles from Iowa
Added by thoran on Apr 25, 2016 3:46 AM
|gracedv||You are welcome!|
There's another photo of the Bird family plots which shows, am guessing, what is a marker from the original older graves before they were relocated to Forest Lawn. Will add it to one of the Bird relatives memorials.
I love your stories, especially about Emil 'Soup Greens' Siefert! And adding you as a friend. Hope that is okay. Always glad to help.
Added by gracedv on Apr 07, 2016 4:44 PM
|Laura Wilson||Rachel (Rice) Cook|
In my family records I have Rachel Royce born January 30, 1743 in Wallingford, New Haven, Connecticut.
"Connecticut Births and Christenings, 1649-1906," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F7W2-RLT : accessed 14 February 2016), Evan Roys in entry for Rachel Roys, 30 Jan 1742; citing ; FHL microfilm unknown.
Index Wallingford, New Haven Co., Connecticut, Vital Records 1670-1850 (Barbor) http://dunhamwilcox.net/ct/wallingford_ct_index.htm
|bill preston||Sylvester North - Sec. F Oakwood Cem.|
Thank you for updating his memorial. Bill Preston
|Danielle Machynski Calhoun||Agnes Finley|
Thanks for pointing that out to me! Sometimes I get in 'the zone' and only hone in on dates and nothing else.
|Susan Seacord Jackson||Ebenezer Wilson|
Thank you for the additional information on Ebenezer Wilson in the Oakwood Cemetery in Troy. I enjoy finding some of these stones that soon may not be legible or with enough information left to give information for who they might have been. I have added the information to the memorial. I usually credit the contributor for this information but not sure how to do that. If you would like that added, let me know the best way to do that.
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