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Janet Muff (#46951416)
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Bio Photo Please remember that this is a website that has grown, thanks to a lot of volunteers. We're not a homogeneous group. We have different values, different styles, different abilities, and sometimes we just plain make mistakes. So, given the nature of our mutual enterprise, we've got to learn how to "do difference."
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If you're irritated and frustrated by people who think or feel differently than you do, then please try a personal conversation before resorting to power moves and policing. You may have the clout and connections at find-a-grave to make your opinions prevail, but the exercise of power is tantamount to being a thug.
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Relationship goes a long way toward solving problems, which is something that Abraham Lincoln understood very well: "I don't like that man," he said, "I must get to know him better." If you're not interested in relationship, in getting to know me and other contributors better; and if you want to hide behind anonymity and to lob edits at people like a guerrilla warrior, then perhaps it's time to step away from the situation and take stock of yourself because you've lost sight of our common goal and our common humanity.
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OK, enough said. And now back to business:
Many people have asked me how I am able to take such clear photographs of the very old stones in the burial grounds of VT and NY.
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Let me say first that I have taken some terrible photographs in my day, and I am still going back to re-shoot those stones. I am not a professional photographer and I use only a point-and-shoot digital camera.
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But I have been gifted with two good friends who deserve much of the credit for my photos: my long-time genealogical buddy, Steven Smith, who gave me two invaluable tips for photographing difficult stones (just send me an email message if you'd like my write-up of Steve's tips); and my mirror-and-umbrella-bearer, Fay Smith (unrelated to Steve), who willingly slogs through waist-high grass and dark woods with me each summer, in the most oppressive heat and humidity, and in spite of the squads of mosquitoes and flies that routinely assail us. How anyone can remain cheerful under such circumstances continues to amaze me, but Fay does.
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Were it not for Steve's advice, Fay's help, and the unfailing support of my husband Jim Boyce - who allows me two months each year in his native state of Vermont - I would be unable to "do cemetery," much less get good photographs.
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And finally I would like to acknowledge my canine companions - Millie, Malarkey and Mischief - Springer Spaniels whose enthusiasm for "doing cemetery" over the years has rivaled my own!
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PLEASE do not use my photographs without permission. If you send me an email message, I will gladly grant permission for your personal use.
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Per find-a-grave guidelines you are entitled to request memorials for direct ancestors up to 4 generations. I receive quite a volume of requests and have found that the tone of such requests has changed recently, from gratitude that the memorials were created to blatant entitlement, and it's very upsetting. I am not a casual graver or phone-tographer. I generally research the families whose memorials I've created and whose photos I've taken (or intend to take) and linked members over many generations. After all that work, it's quite a loss to transfer my memorials, but I'm willing to do so if your relationship trumps mine and if you'll provide me with supporting documentation. I've never asked for proof of relationship before, but the tone of recent messages and the drive of some people to add as many notches to their gun belts as possible, has prompted my new "policy."
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phillipsp
RE: Duplicate Memorials
No problem. I'm just happy the information is correct now.
Added by phillipsp on Jan 31, 2015 12:32 AM
phillipsp
RE: Duplicate Memorials
Thanks for letting me know. It wouldn't be the first time the old newspapers were wrong about the place of burial. I'll delete mine. I've already deleted the memorial for Clara Burdish (infant daughter of Richard and Mary), who also had a newspaper article stating she was buried in St. Mary's cemetery.
Added by phillipsp on Jan 30, 2015 7:25 AM
MrsB
Koory updates--and an appreciation for your bio
First, thank you for the Koory updates. These memorials are so much better because of volunteers who help each other.
Second, having experienced a scolding, growling request and response from someone not anywhere close to the 4-generation transfer request (I had done SIGNIFICANT work in searching National Archives and crafting a bio), I appreciated reading the comments you put in your profile.
Again, your time and thoughtfulness in sending the Edits is valued by me.
Added by MrsB on Jan 27, 2015 9:36 AM
Marguerite
RE: Ebenezer Warren FAG #29477534
source: Prestonville Cemetery Book @ Mt. Clemens Library in Genealogy Room. I visited the Library this week on Cass Ave. Don't forget to use the profile nos. when you ask a question. We work on hundreds of profiles in a week at many cemeteries in several counties.
Added by Marguerite on Jan 23, 2015 8:43 AM
Sara
RE: The Kelleys
Yes..if you ever need any help in CT...or NC where I am presently on vacation...let me know...always glad to help a "fellow" genealogist!!
Sara
Added by Sara on Jan 22, 2015 7:04 AM
Erik & Karen
# 38633167
I am curious about this internment as you posted 2 different pictures and they don't reference the same person. The bottom one has 'S' for middle name and the death date does not match.
Added by Erik & Karen on Jan 22, 2015 4:38 AM
Sara
RE: The Kelleys
Janet,
I'm thrilled that this edit method has worked out. I've used it for the past few days...and so far..so good. Plus contributor's have e-mailed me with any additional information that they would like me to include. As you've said people easily have a reference/contributor's number for the additions on the memorial pages...so it's a win-win situation!!

Thanks so much for e-mailing me with your thoughts. As always good luck with your genealogy,
Sara
Added by Sara on Jan 21, 2015 6:50 AM
Sara
RE: The Kelleys
Janet,
It was never my intention to cause extra work for contributors who spend so much time and effort doing excellent research of their information/taking gravestone photos etc. The only problem I had was adding (hopefully) correct information and documenting who provided it.

I realize that it is my responsibility to do "due diligence" on edits and I should research all information that I am provided. That being said...when I get 30+ edits each and every day (and we do have other lives besides Find A Grave)..it was impossible to try and thoroughly research everyone's individual edit information. Do I look on Ancestry/the Hale records/the Barbour records/a local historical society/another genealogy website etc?? I even thought about no longer being a part of Find A Grave or occasionally inputting memorial pages.

But...I woke up this morning at 6am with a revelation and a solution to the edit issue. I can just take the 30+ edits as they come every day and go to the indicated memorial page and add the contributor's number as providing that information. It is more work for me either way...but this new way will "annoy" contributors less and make it easier for them to provide links to parents/birth dates/maiden names/correct spellings of last names etc....and not require them to look at my contributor's page and then send an "additions/corrections" edit.

Please don't think that I decided on my original edit declines without many sleepless nights on my part but I think that this new solution will solve the "problem".

Again I am so sorry that this caused you any additional time/research,
Sara
Added by Sara on Jan 19, 2015 6:11 AM
Sara
RE: The Kelleys
Absolutely I will correct any name discrepancies ...just send me a correction on the edit button...and then the "additions and corrections" tab and I will change the name. I just...right or wrong...decline all the edits I receive...over 30 yesterday...and don't look at them one by one to see if they are possibly correct.
It would be so much easier if Find A Grave would add the contributor's number with any edits so that others know how to reach them and where they got that information.
Thanks for your understanding,
Sara
Added by Sara on Jan 18, 2015 1:45 PM
Sara
RE: Oliver Bogue
The only reason that I said "your date conflicts with my data" is because none of the "decline this edit" reasons are any good to explain why I don't accept edits any more....so I just pick the first one. So sorry for any confusion!!

Again the edit way doesn't put the contributor's name on the memorial page...and I have gotten some false information. I have had people ask me where I got the information from...and I don't know. I had over 30 edits today...and I can't possibly research every/all things.

So I came up with this method...we'll see if it works. Send me an edit...then go to the "additions/corrections" tab and include your source and contributor's number and I'll include it on the memorial page so people know who to contact with any questions.

Thanks,
Sara
Added by Sara on Jan 17, 2015 4:35 PM
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