|Patricia Ibbotson (#47001450)|
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Many of the additions made to findagrave have been burials in the Eloise Cemetery in Westland, Michigan and removals of patients from there to the Detroit College of Medicine later known as Wayne University College of Medicine. Some remains were transferred to the University of Michigan. The patients buried in the Eloise Cemetery were those whose remains were not claimed by family or friends and the cemetery was a Potter's Field with graves marked only by numbers. Many of the records were lost and the burials have been extrapolated from the original death records. In many cases a copy of the death certificate has been scanned on the memorial by me or Brenda Ozog who added about 450 of the burials. There were about 7100 burials in the Eloise Cemetery and records from 1925-1934 are still missing. You can obtain copies of the death certificates on patients buried in the cemetery between the years 1935-1948 from the Burton Historical Collection of the Detroit Public Library. No further burials were made in the cemetery after 1948. You have my permission to copy any of the photos on the memorials.|
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|Pamela Davis||William Henry Burton|
Thank you so so ver much for your work and transfer.
|Pamela Davis||William Henry Burton|
Request a transfer of William Burton memorial # 114301527 to me. I have confirmed his relationship to Sadie and also found his parents (my GGparents) at Northview. I am so happy I found them all. Thank you
|Donald Reindl||Szumanski memorials|
Hi, not sure if my edit tab message went through. Just a note to let you know that your memorials #118798470 and #118798418 have errors. "Ojciec" and "Matka" are the Polish words for 'father' and 'mother' and are not first names. Best wishes, Don
I had just finished reading about that cemetery when I saw your bio. You are truly a hero for identifying so many of the people buried there. What a task!
|Catherine||Mary Ann Hortop Helson Knowles|
Thank you for adding her gravesite, including the cause of death. And thank you for adding the information I provided
She is my 2nd gr-grandmother on my dad's side. I relied on two sources to provide the information I sent you.
The first is a genealogy of the Helson Family written by Maud Helson, her granddaughter. It was published in 1911 in the "History of Wayne County and the City of Detroit, Michigan" Vol. III, pages 850-851. The title of the genealogy and first two paragraphs state:
"THE HELSON FAMILY
"In the preparation of the biographical record of Miss Maude Helson one is brought into close connection with one of the oldest and most honored of the pioneer families of Detroit. The Helsons are of English lineage, the family having been represented on the "Merrie Isle" for many generations, and there is a tradition that a Richard followed after a William from father to son. Records indicate that members of the family were born at Grimacom Farm, Broadwood-Widger Parish, in Devon but William Helson, the grandfather of Miss Helson, lived at Tavistock. He was born in 1802 and in young manhood went to Plymouth, England, where he worked at the building trade. In 1835, when thirty-three years of age, he arrived in Detroit and here worked at his trade until he lost his tools in the fire of 1837, after which he returned to England. In the early spring of 1838 he married Mary Ann Hortop, a daughter of Henry and Rebecca (Vauden) Hortop, of Hortop Hall, in Devonshire. Her people were long resident there and occupied an old stone house which has stood for about three centuries. Henry Hortop, the great-grandfather of Miss Helson, married a Miss Smith and after her death wedded Rebecca Vauden. He died in 1840 and his second wife passed away April 5, 1849. THey had lived in the old stone house called Hortop Hall and were farming people who owned their own lands. In their dining room was a long stone table, probably still in use, at one end of which sat Henry Hortp, his wife and children, and at the other end the farm hands. They had nine children: William; Mary Ann; James; Grace, who became Mrs. George Martin; Margaret, who married James Martin; John; Henry; Charlotte; and Elizabeth.
"The eldest daughter of that family, Mary Ann Hortop, was born January 17, 1811, and educated in a private boarding school at Plymouth, and, as stated, became the wife of William Helson, who brought her as his bride to Detroit in May, 1838. THey lived on the west side of Brush street, between Fort and Monroe or Fort and Lafayette, and there their son, Richard Helson, was born January 14, 1839. The grandfather, William Helson, later purchased a house on Woodbridge street, East, and in that home their second son, William Henry, was born March 15, 1841, but died November 28, 1851. It was in the Woodbridge street home that William Helson died when but thirty-nine years of age, leaving to his widow the care of her two boys, aged three years and nine months respectively. She then sold the home and rented a small frame house on the east side of Brush street, just above Gratiot. In this she opened a private school for boys, which was the first of the kind in Detroit, and thus provided the support of herself and children. In the fall of 1844 she became the wife of William H. Knowles, a widower with three sons, and by her second marriage she had two children: James, who was born in 1846 and died December 21, 1848; and John Ernest, who was born November 3, 1848, and died in Omaha, Nebraska, in 1909. In the early days the family went through many of the experiences of pioneer life. Detroit was then a very cold place in winter and brass warming pans were used to warm the beds. Quail were plentiful and deer, hunted in the woods, would be chased into the streets of the town. At that time Adams avenue constituted the northern boundary of the city."
The second is a certified copy of proof of marriage between Mary Ann Hortop and William Helson which I received from the Clerk, Devon, England a few years ago.
These sources were independent of the information I found on Ancestry.com.
Again, thank you very much
|Renaldo Browne||RE: Mary Jane Gregory Olmsted|
Ok, no problem. Thank you for your quick reply. If I had a vehicle, I would go to NC (Sampson & Johnston Counties), and take pics of my friend's tombstones.
|Renaldo Browne||Mary Jane Gregory Olmsted|
Patricia, are you still taking photos of tombstones? If so, can you take a photo of Mary Jane Gregory Olmsted (Sect. 25, Lot 552, Grave 2), and her husband William Roys Olmsted.
I really appreciate it.
|Pamela Davis||William Henry Burton|
OMG, could this possibly be Sadie brother William Henry Burton. I see he is buried close too her? Wow I will have too see if I can call the cemetery and check I have been looking for him!
Plot: Single 77, Block M
|HENT||RE: Van Patrick Memorial|
After speaking to the caretaker at Northview he mentioned that for 25 years after his death (from cancer) the Dearborn Country Club held charty fund raisers in his name, along with that over the years anyone who I mentioned Van's name to knew who he was.. So I figured 'famous' enough.. The find a grave menu had instructions to have someone designated after the fact, I'll try again, but it may create a duplicate record
Added by HENT on Aug 23, 2014 4:29 PM
|Pamela Davis||Thank you for Sadie|
Thank you so so much for you transfer of Sadie Bouchard memorial. I will have to call the cementery. I live out of state. I am not sure her husband is buried here. I believe they may have been divorced sometime between 1930 and 1935 the year she passed.
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