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history4sure (#46997739)
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"When God sends forth a special living soul to learn the ways of the earth, an earthly mother's love is waiting; we call this wonder birth. When God calls home a loving earthly soul and stills a fleeting breath, a Heavenly Father's love is waiting; this too is birth, not death."

I am willing to transfer any memorials which are not my ancestors or relatives and will try to help anyone with information or research. I think it is important to identify persons, when possible, so we can know who they are and who their families are, for historical and personal reasons.
2016 Update:
Sixty seven years ago I started looking for lost graves as Grandma sent me, at age 8, to find "the indention by the pine tree, near great great grandpa's headstone" so she could place flowers where a baby was buried in 1869 with no "marker". From her, I learned to look for that tiny "frosted" spot when the night before had been chilly (the ground is still warmer at a burial site which has no vault, even after 100's of years!)
I first knew grief when Grandma died, 60 years ago. To honor her, I began genealogy research from her precious family records. Fifty five years ago the death of my young first husband, at the hands of robbers, nearly caused the loss of my first unborn child. Years later, a miscarriage took another son and now, for the past 31 years, we have also grieved for our youngest son, lost to a freak accident. Brad
Writing personal histories has been a passion for over 40 years, since I found my relationship to Mormon Battalion soldiers and an early U.S. President.
Being an unpaid cemetery sexton for the past 25 years has required mapping and recording (handwritten) of over 3,000 birth & death locations and overseeing burials and settings of gravestones for some 950 persons. During this time, the birth and death records from 1854 at one cemetery and from 1869 to date, at another, were located and recorded; exact grave locations had never been written down for 155 years! I'm still hand drawing family lot maps for the latter cemetery for all owners.
For over 30 years, I have composed poetry and short stories about loved ones' passing, both for my own and others.
So, am I a "graver" ?, a "griever", a "genealogist", a "historian", a "sexton", a "poet" or just kind of "nutty"?? (We ALL could have, instead of this, been lounging on "sum beach sum where", ya know!)
Anyway, I feel sad when an unkind remark is posted, or it is stated that Find a Grave was designed for one purpose and that "newcomers", who want to use it for genealogy, or some other reason than it was originally intended, should go elsewhere. I hope it is intended to help us all find burial locations, which should include photos, dates, and family links, if possible for proper identification.
Short bios also help identify specific individuals and search data sources can help us verify the positive location. That is why I believe that a gravestone, with poor or misinterpreted information, should be supplemented with the best historical facts available, if possible. After all, it is Find a Grave, not "Find a Stone". Sometimes, nothing else is available, but that is a sad case; unknown, with unknown dates does not tell us much, especially when there is no stone or it is illegible.
I hope to help & will gladly transfer, edit, delete or correct anything I contribute; I'm slow, but I'm OLD, please have patience!


Suprise! Thanks so much to Renee for the Sponsorship of Our Sweet Rose...what an honor to be cared for by such a dedicated animal lover.

I am grateful AGAIN to Love Always, Renee for the sponsorship of my beloved Daddy - what a generous contributor she is...check out her loving memorials!


PLEASE NOTE: Check the top center of your profile page - if an "edit" tab is there - you need to click on it and check to approve or reject any edits that may have been sent to you - only a few email "edit" notices are coming from fag since this new feature was added.

Sorry, I have to laugh.... recently seen on a gravestone, (wife's, Jo Ann's stone) "DO NOT STAND AT MY GRAVE AND CRY, I AM NOT HERE, I DID NOT DIE" ...alongside on the husband's stone, "JO ANN - IF WE DID NOT DIE, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE?".... [ I SAID I'm sorry! ]
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duplicate memorials
I was given some of the Memorials added by the Utah State. they were incorrectly listed without the birth and death dates. I have been updating them and trying to find relatives to take them. John Billy Atcitty #65851 [Utah State] and #52536624 [yours] are duplicates. Would you like me to transfer the duplicate to you?
Added by LindaSmithID on Dec 07, 2016 12:13 AM
Anna M Berts 1794-1848
Anna M Berts 1794-1848
Thank you for your email.
I didnít want to persuade follow family researcher by putting that fact that her youngest son (whom was 13 when she died) John George Bertzís OH death certificate had her maiden name as Anna Magdalena Daught or Dought. Since that is the only fact I have found on her maiden name.

I do however have her listed as Anna Magdalena ____ on my Ancestry tree with notes of all this. No one has sent me a message thru Ancestry though.
Iím from Annaís daughter Sophia Margaret Bertz 1833-1922 and Sophiaís 2nd husband John Charles Cammel/Campbell 1841-1914. Johnís Mother was Barbara Freeze or Frieze 1816-?1890? and his father was Charles John Campbell or Cammel 1805-?1887?.
So are we distantly related?
Link to memorial:
Kimberly frm Kansas
Added by Kimberly on Dec 06, 2016 4:48 PM
Anna M Berts (1794-1848)
Thank you for your email. I do have Anna Magdalena Berts listed on my Ancestry tree as Anna Magdalena ____ with a note that her maiden name is Dought or Doud or Daude (and yes I just added Daught). I didn't want to persuade fellow researcher by putting what was on her youngest son's (John George Bertz's OH death certificate) since I am unable to verify that with any other hard research. John George Bertz was only age 13 when his Mom passed away and was raised by his older sisters. I'm from Anna's daughter Sophia's second marriage with John Charles Cammel/Campbell (1805-?1887?) (whose mother was Barbara Freeze 1816-?1890?)!!
Added by Kimberly on Dec 06, 2016 4:22 PM
Love Always, Renee
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Wishing you and your family a special day of thanks.
Added by Love Always, Renee on Nov 22, 2016 6:17 PM
RE: General Washington Arnhart
HI Shirleen, you are welcome and glad to help in anyway. Did you know that the city website has his name as George? Just curious how it fell in or maybe it was a mistake.

Do you have obituaries for them both?

Burial Date: 1/6/1939
Section: Section: G.A.R
Block: 30
Lot: 6
Row: 0
Grave: 1
Added by Shane on Nov 19, 2016 8:34 AM
Fanny Saunders Campbell
I don't know about the death record, but she was in the cemetery list. Of course most of those are compilations of readings of the cemetery, cemetery records, and sometimes a few local obituaries and family records. But I did link her to her second husband and you can send the link to her first husband if you want. And if she does have a marker there someone will add it to Find A Grave eventually, so why not you now? And then you can add the note that she is most likely buried with her second husband.
Added by RobMinteer57 on Nov 18, 2016 3:32 PM
Hal Teel
RE: 56840318
Thanks Shirleen - I'm sorry I didn't respond earlier but I just saw your message now. I see you already made the changes.
Thanks, Hal

Mary Cutter
Massachusetts, Town Clerk, Vital and Town Records
Name Mary Cutter
Event Type Birth
Event Date 26 Nov 1684
Event Place Cambridge, Middlesex, Massachusetts, United States
Gender Female
Father's Name Will. Cutter
Mother's Name Rebecca
Added by Hal Teel on Nov 01, 2016 11:32 AM
Richard Stuhr & wifes
Reading in my Stuhr Family history I find the following.

Richard's first marriage Deloris Fuller (1946)
three children all boys.

Second marriage Florence Smith (1953) three children, one girl, two boys.

Third marriage Irene Hulme,Jones 1991, no children.

Richard's mother was a Schlechte.

If you agree I will edit accordingly.

Thanks for the input.


Added by Bob on Oct 31, 2016 10:54 AM
Jayne Beers
RE: Fairview Cemtery/Weaver, Beer
>thank you for the edits & data

You're welcome.

>I also sent an edit to the owner of Henry Foster >Beer's memorial, to add Geo. W. as his father.

Great, thank you.

>I do not know where Alice L. is, so am not able to >send an edit to link her to the parents.

I just found out that Alice L. is the same person as Lola H.F. Beer that married James Jackson Hunter.

Thank you for your assistance with this.
Added by Jayne Beers on Oct 27, 2016 7:04 AM
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I was not telling you shhhh. I did not want my conscience knowing I was slacking.
Everything is labeled. much of it is posted. [big ole raspberry here] but I am only an hour LATE.
Good thing my hubby is out tonight.
He did not get dinner last night.

Love ya lots
thank you
have fun
me. shhhh I sneaking out.

Added by Chesnut/Behunin Descendan... on Oct 26, 2016 3:00 PM
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