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MWarner (#47788926)
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I started my family research journey in 2010 - quickly hitting the same information dead end walls all others encountered as no one had really researched the Warner family before. Also ran into dead ends in the McLean, Radel, Udell, Sayles, Madson, Decker, Quick, Handy, Woodring, Andersons ...too many to list. My family - as all families - have those dreaded dead ends where information just stops.

Quitting wasn't an option. So, I worked almost 24/7 7 days a week and spent over $5000 on death, birth and marriage certificates to confirm/verify the relatives and on numerous on-line ancestry on-line subscriptions from USA, International,, 3fold...too many to count - all adding up in expense but each yielding some vital bit of information that broke down those information dead ends. These death certs were not found anywhere on the internet as there are several sites that provide death certs for free including familysearch...etc.

I poured over thousands of cemetery lists and contacted via email/phone/snail mail thousands of funeral homes and cemetery managers-anyone who might offer a lead or verify information and followed-up if they didn't respond. (keep info on an excel spreadsheet as might have to contact them again on another ancestor) I advertised jobs and paid people in other states to get obituary copies in a library who didn't offer copy services and who didn't have that obituary posted anywhere on-line or paid libraries and other services to copy obituaries that could not be found anywhere on Internet. I then posted those obits on FAG so it would be on the internet. Until someone posts it on, FAG or some other public website and/or links the names together correctly, it is NOT there to find. So your "finding' it on the internet was not the "real" research. It was the person who did the work to find it in a library or book or paid for it or had it in their family bibles and who posted it to the internet for you to find. I poured over free on-line ancestry by surname books and purchased many books on families when I could find them.

I googled (use duckduckgo, google and Ixquick search engines also) names and went through not just 1st page google search but back 2-5 pages...looking for any elusive bit of information that might be under a misspelled surname etc. Exhausting. Dull. Work.

I poured over thousands of old city/town tax records looking for relatives and for "current" property owners of land on which an old cemetery is located which has ancestors buried in it and requested a headstone photo. I sent thousands of emails to schools, college history departments, genealogy organizations, anyone who might be interested...the FAG REQUEST PHOTO website link of a cemetery (with my ancestors in it) in their specific town/city ...asking if they would take even one headstone photo or take it on as a history project and to forward my email FAG Photo Requests to anyone who might be interested. It worked. I also purchased ancestry books on-line - the cost of which adds up and spent hundred of hours reading ebook ancestry books searching for any elusive nugget of ancestry information.

Although my ancestry tree is private due to having too many death certs on it...I posted a ton of information on FAG and sent out edit updates to thousands of other FAG member memorials to help get our family ancestry out.

It is 2014 now..and I still work every day at least 8 hours a day on family research on my ever expanding mostly "fully researched" over 67,900 member tree. Fully researched means DOD/DOD/spouse/all children/cemetery and last a photo of the headstone (if not cremated)

I salute all the family researchers - it is hard tedious work to break though dead ends ....but so rewarding when the family ancestry members finally fit together.

TIP 1: Buy a death certificate - it tells you where the person is buried (or cremated) & verifies parents. Sometimes this is the only way. Buy from the COUNTY - not from the state and NEVER buy on-line (way too expensive). Google county person died in and death certificate. Ex: Kent County Michigan death certificate. Price range is $5-$20 and toss in a self addressed stamped envelop. NOTE: Buy your grandparents 1/2/3/4/5 all of find out your health history as cause of death is normally on a death certificate.

TIP 2: Ignore's suggestion of leaving the last name blank on women whose maiden names are unknown. ALWAYS put the husband's surname...BUT ..make it small letters. Example. If Susan is married to Allen Jones...then make Susan's last name jones (NOT Jones) until you find her maiden name. When hints show a father for Susan as Tom automatically know he is NOT her father because non-capitalized j in jones means that is her husband's last name. Having jones as her last name helps the computer match to the correct Susan instead of leaving the last name blank and getting tons of different last names.

TIP 3: Do NOT give up. I did this alone as none of my family on either side was interested (once I tracked some down) and the 1 who was interested was as clueless as me as to family history. I knew only my father's parents names (but not grandmother's maiden name) and the name of my mother's parents - that is it. I never met my dad's father and didn't even know my father had so many siblings. Those siblings I tracked down didn't know where their own father/mother were buried (my grandparents). If I can start from this point, so can you.

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Shirley Hoard
Thomas Ford in St. Mary's cemetery in Sanilac
Yes this is the right cemetery. He is in section B There is also another Thomas Ford in the same section. born 12-25-1818 and died 11-5-1891. The Sandusky District library has a genealogy section on line. They have the cemeteries on it. The ladies have gone out and wrote down all the headstone that are in all the cemeteries.
Added by Shirley Hoard on Aug 19, 2014 8:08 PM
memorial 8341403
Please check your photo on this memorial. The Irene M Anderson you have posted passed in 1996. Thank you
Added by butterfly on Aug 16, 2014 12:22 AM
I located the grave of Orin at West Lawn and took a photo of his marker. Marion G. Olmsted is buried to his left. There is no memorial page for Marion, so no place to post that photo. I can only presume that she is Orin's wife since she has a military marker with no notation that she served in the military. Please let me know what you would like to do.
Added by Tom on Aug 08, 2014 3:35 PM
M. Johnson
Esther Madison
I will transfer, as soon as possible. The transfer feature do not seem to be working at present. I have a note and will try again asap. M Johnson.
Added by M. Johnson on Aug 02, 2014 6:51 AM
M. Johnson
Esther Madison - transfer
I will be happy to transfer Esther to you and you may do with it what you will. I am not related to her, I only recorded and photographed the cemetery for others. I do Not have a copy of the headstone photo. However you may use the photo I entered if you wish. I enjoy helping others find there loved ones and do not need the credit. Mjohnson.
Added by M. Johnson on Aug 02, 2014 6:43 AM
Richard & Ardys Arnold #28966168 and #28966191
You have photo requests for these people in Michigan Memorial Cemetery. It's quite a large cemetery. You should probably call them and get a grave location if you want your request fulfilled.
Added by CarmasKid on Aug 01, 2014 10:14 PM
Share your research, for free, so it won't end up in a dark closet not to benefit anyone. I have also spent the thousands of dollars researching my family and share it freely online. Put it in a bound form and donate it to your local library.
Added by James on Aug 01, 2014 6:35 PM
Jim Kenyon
RE: Find A Grave Memorial# 80064937
Guy was doris's husband. I didn't think to check to see if he had a memorial, so I removed his military record from Doris and added it plus grave stone to Guys. He was know locally as "Guy". Jim
Added by Jim Kenyon on Jul 30, 2014 5:14 AM
Frank Ray Cook
Hi, I added a tombstone photo for Frank.I also sent you an edit with his parents numbers; his birth & death info; and burial location.Also the stone shows his middle name is Ray instead of Roy.

Thank you,
Added by LADONNA GREER COLLETT on Jul 25, 2014 7:51 AM
Carl Hagelgans photo request

Just wanted to let you know I fulfilled your photo request for Carl Hagelgans however he is buried in the South Colon Cemetery, Colon, St. Joseph, Michigan, not in the Burr Oak Township Cemetery. I have sent a correction to the manager of the memorial, she's really good about making corrections & I'm sure she'll have it changed in a day or so.

Added by Anne on Jul 14, 2014 6:26 PM
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