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I started my family research journey in 2010 - quickly hitting the same information dead end walls all others encountered as no one had really researched the Warner family before. Also ran into dead ends in the McLean, Radel, Udell, Sayles, Madson, Decker, Quick, Handy, Woodring, Andersons ...too many to list. My family - as all families - have those dreaded dead ends where information just stops. |
Quitting wasn't an option. So, I worked almost 24/7 7 days a week and spent over $4900 on death, birth and marriage certificates to confirm/verify the relatives and paid for numerous on-line ancestry on-line subscriptions from ancestry.com USA, ancestry.com International, Archives.com, Geneologybank.com ...too many to count - all adding up in expense but each yielding some vital bit of information that broke down those information dead ends. I poured over thousands of cemetery lists and contacted via email/phone/snail mail thousands of funeral homes and cemetery managers-anyone who might offer a lead or verify information and followed-up if they didn't respond. I advertised jobs and paid people in other states to get obituary copies in a library who didn't offer copy services and who didn't have that obituary posted anywhere on-line or paid libraries and other services to copy obituaries that could not be found anywhere on Internet. I then posted those obits on FAG so it would be on the internet. Until someone posts it on ancestry.com, FAG or some other public website and/or links the names together correctly, it is NOT there to find. So your "finding' it on the internet was not the "real" research. It was the person who did the work to find it in a library or book or paid for it or had it in their family bibles and who posted it to the internet for you to find. I poured over free on-line ancestry by surname books and purchased many books on families when I could find them.
I googled (use duckduckgo, google and Ixquick search engines also) names and went through not just 1st page google search but back 2-5 pages...looking for any elusive bit of information that might be under a misspelled surname etc. Exhausting. Dull. Work.
I poured over thousands of old city/town tax records looking for relatives and for "current" property owners of land on which an old cemetery is located which has ancestors buried in it and requested a headstone photo. I sent thousands of emails to schools, college history departments, genealogy organizations, anyone who might be interested...the FAG REQUEST PHOTO website link of a cemetery (with my ancestors in it) in their specific town/city ...asking if they would take even one headstone photo or take it on as a history project and to forward my email FAG Photo Requests to anyone who might be interested. It worked. I also purchased ancestry books on-line - the cost of which adds up and spent hundred of hours reading ebook ancestry books searching for any elusive nugget of ancestry information.
Although my ancestry tree is private due to having too many death certs on it...I posted a ton of information on FAG and sent out edit updates to thousands of other FAG member memorials to help get our family ancestry out.
It is 2014 now..and I still work every day at least 8 hours a day on family research on my ever expanding mostly "fully researched" over 55,000 member tree. Fully researched means DOD/DOD/spouse/all children/cemetery and last a photo of the headstone (if not cremated)
I salute all the family researchers - it is hard tedious work to break though dead ends ....but so rewarding when the family ancestry members finally fit together.
TIP 1: Buy a death certificate - it tells you where the person is buried & verifies parents. Sometimes this is the only way. Buy from the COUNTY - not from the state and NEVER buy on-line (way too expensive). Google county person died in and death certificate. Ex: Kent County Michigan death certificate. Price range is $5-$20 and toss in a self addressed stamped envelop.
TIP 2: Ignore ancestry.com's suggestion of leaving the last name blank on women whose maiden names are unknown. ALWAYS put the husband's surname...BUT ..make it small letters. Example. If Susan is married to Allen Jones...then make Susan's last name jones (NOT Jones) until you find her maiden name. When ancestry.com hints show a father for Susan as Tom Jones..you automatically know he is NOT her father because non-capitlized j in jones means that is her husband's last name. Having jones as her last name helps the computer match to the correct Susan instead of leaving the last name blank and getting tons of different last names.
TIP 3: Do NOT give up. I did this alone as none of my family on either side was interested (once I tracked some down) and the 1 who was interested was as clueless as me as to family history. I knew only my father's parents names (but not grandmother's maiden name) and the name of my mother's parents - that is it. I never met my dad's father and didn't even know my father had so many siblings. Those siblings I tracked down didn't know where their own father/mother were buried (my grandparents). If I can start from this point, so can you.
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Are you related to Robert B Warner and his wife Barbara?
Added by Connie on Apr 12, 2014 12:27 PM
|Patricia Richardson Tillman||Your profile|
I enjoy reading everyone's profile so I know a little bit about them as we will probably never meet. I have saved yours as Friends because of all the resourceful information you have shared. There are 5 in my family doing family research and we are still hitting a brick wall on great- great Casteel grandparents. Thanks for all the inspiration and information to keep going forward and not giving up.
Blessings, Patricia Richardson Tillman
|M. Johnson||Christine Jansen|
I transferred Christine to you and also Emil, he is buried next to her.
|Julia Ather||Norman J. McLean|
I put in links to Norman's parents in Park Cemetery as you suggested. If you're a relative and you would like Norman's memorial, just ask and I'll transfer it over to you.
|Elkv42||Emily Balch Thorpe|
Ooops.. left off where I found the obit:
Northern New York Library Network, Historical Newspaper Section.
Added by Elkv42 on Mar 31, 2014 1:07 PM
|Elkv42||Emily Balch Thorpe|
Here is the info for the obit:
The Pulaski Democrat, 28 May 1924.
Added by Elkv42 on Mar 31, 2014 1:05 PM
|Camilla Callan||Raymond Infield|
I had to move ice off his gravestone to take the picture. In a few weeks i'll go back and get a better photo. I figured you'd at least like to have something so that's why I posted this one.
|Elkv42||Emily Balch Thorpe cont'd|
I forgot to request that you edit that newspaper clipping and put the name of the newspaper, the publication date, and where you found it. Thanks, Lori
Added by Elkv42 on Mar 23, 2014 3:02 PM
|Elkv42||Emily Balch Thorpe|
Thank you for the information. I have that obituary, and didn't put the birthplace, because it is incorrect. I have updated to what I know to be correct.
Added by Elkv42 on Mar 23, 2014 2:50 PM
|sing68||RE: Mary Buller Klassen|
The photo is at #25336534, Mary Buller Klassen. Don't know if it is the person you are looking for?
Added by sing68 on Mar 19, 2014 9:19 AM
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