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Thieves Steal $100,000 worth of Bronze from Cemetery|
I read a lot of this theft now. This happened to my gg grandparents.
I work very hard on my research (over 85,000) ancestors) & until now have been generous in handing out edit updates. I am now selective as to which memorials get sent edit updates as I don't like being used by people who have zero intention of ever researching the memorials they are not related to BUT, who refuse to transfer them out. Also, the "new" FAG edit system is EXTREMELY time consuming with having to fill out several sections on the same memorial which eats up my research time. So I will no longer send edit updates to anyone 1) strictly adhering to FAG memorial transfer "guidelines" (or my transfers). If someone is not related to a memorial and did not do the research to find the information on the memorial (other people sent in edit updates) there is no reason not to transfer non-relative memorials to current ggg grandchildren or even to a cousin willing to do research. 2) Anyone with no comments on their page because deleted them or comments not allowed on page will not receive edit updates. 3) Anyone forcing people to get permission to use their photos will not get edit updates.I worked much harder & paid more money to find that information than it took to drive to a cemetery and snap a cell phone photo. If I don't force people to give me permission before using information I find, I don't expect someone to force me to get permission to use a simple photo. They are not Picassos. 4) Anyone who states they don't want death/birth certificates, obits,etc posted to "their" memorials will not get edit updates.
I started my family research journey in 2010 - quickly hitting the same information dead end walls all others encountered as no one had really researched the Warner family before. Also ran into dead ends in the Radel;Udell; McLean;Sayles; Madson;Decker;Quick;Handy;;Anderson=too many to list. My family - as all families - have those dreaded dead ends where information just stops.
Quitting wasn't an option. So, I worked almost 24/7 7 days a week and spent over $5000 on death, birth and marriage certificates to confirm/verify relatives and on numerous on-line ancestry subscriptions from ancestry.com USA;ancestry.com International;Archives.com;Geneologybank.com;3fold...too many to count - all adding up in expense but each yielding some vital bit of information that broke down those information dead ends. These death certs were not found anywhere on the internet as there are several sites that provide death certs for free including familysearch...etc.
I poured over thousands of cemetery lists and contacted via email/phone/snail mail thousands of funeral homes and cemetery managers-anyone who might offer a lead or verify information and followed-up if they didn't respond. (keep info on excel spreadsheet) I advertised jobs and paid people in other states to get obituary copies in a library who didn't offer copy services and who didn't have that obituary posted anywhere on-line or paid libraries and other services to copy obituaries that could not be found anywhere on Internet. I then posted those obits on FAG/internet sites so available to public. Until someone posts it on ancestry.com, FAG or some other public website and/or links the names together correctly, it is NOT there to find. So your "finding' it on the internet was not the "real" research. It was the person who did the work to find it in a library or book or paid for it or had it in their family bibles and who posted it to the internet for you to find. I purchased ancestry books - the cost of which adds up and spent hundred of hours reading free ebook ancestry books searching for any elusive nugget of ancestry information.
I googled (use duckduckgo, google and Ixquick search engines also) names and went through not just 1st page google search but back 2-5 pages...looking for any elusive bit of information that might be under a misspelled surname etc. Exhausting. Dull. Work.
I pour over thousands of old city/town tax records looking for relatives and for "current" property owners of land on which an old cemetery is located which has ancestors buried in it and requested a headstone photo. I send thousands of emails to schools, college history departments, genealogy and veteran organizations, anyone who might be interested...the FAG REQUEST PHOTO website link of a cemetery (with my ancestors in it) in their specific town/city ...asking if they would take even one headstone photo;take it on as a history project;challenge them to post their ancestor or veteran photos and to forward my email FAG Photo Requests to anyone who might be interested. It worked.
Although my ancestry tree is private due to having too many death certs on it...I posted a ton of information on FAG and sent out edit updates to thousands of other FAG member memorials to help get our family ancestry out.
It is 2015 now..and I still work every day at least 8 hours a day on family research on my ever expanding mostly "fully researched" over 82,351 member tree. Fully researched means DOD/DOD/spouse/all children/cemetery and last a photo of the headstone (if not cremated)
I salute all family researchers - it is hard tedious work to break though dead ends but so rewarding when it happens.
TIP 1: Buy death certificate-Majority time,it tells you where person buried/cremated,verifies parents & gives address/name of person who signed it. Sometimes only way. Buy from COUNTY-not state &NEVER buy VitalChek. Google county person died in & death certificate. Price range is $5-$20 and toss in a self addressed stamped envelop. NOTE: Buy your grandparents 1/2/3/4/5 all of them...to find out your health history as cause of death is normally on a death certificate.
TIP 2: Ignore ancestry.com's suggestion of leaving maiden name blank if unknown. ALWAYS put husband's surname BUT make it small letters. EX: If Susan married to Allen Jones...then make Susan's last name jones (NOT Jones) until her maiden name known. If ancestry.com hints show a father for Susan as Tom Jones..you know he is NOT her father because non-capitalized j in jones means her husband's surname. Having jones as her last name helps computer match to correct Susan.
TIP 3: Do NOT give up. I did this alone as none of my family on either side was interested (once I tracked some down) & the 1 who was interested was as clueless as me as to family history. I knew only my father's parents names (but not grandmother's maiden name) & maternal grandparent names. I never met my dad's father & didn't know my father had so many siblings. Those siblings I tracked down didn't know where their own father/mother were buried (my grandparents). If I can start from this point, so can you.
TIP 4:Birthday Calculator
Tip 5:Contribute NEW information-don't just copy other people's work - leeches are why communism/socialism always fails. More takers than contributors. Roll up sleeves/open wallet and work.
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|Dave Davenport||RE: Hofren 144090487|
MEMORIAL # 144090487. THESE TWO CEMETERIES GET MIXED UP ALL THE TIME. ONE IS IN EAST PHOENIX, THE OTHER IN WEST PHOENIX. SOMEONE SHOULD PICK IT UP OVER THERE.
|Dave Davenport||Heffron - RESTHAVEN|
PLEASE RESUBMIT THIS REQUEST FOR RESTHAVEN WEST. RESTHAVEN EAST IS THE WRONG CEMETERY. SHE IS NOT THERE.
PLEASE POST REQUEST FOR CRISPULO QUIGTAR AND I WILL POST PICTURE OF GRAVE MARKER. JOHN B
|Dave Davenport||PHYLLIS HEFFRON|
RESUBMIT THIS PHOTO REQUEST TO RESTHAVEN WEST. THESE TWO CEMETERIES GET MIXED UP ALL THE TIME. SOMEONE WILL PICK UP THE REQUEST ON THE WESTSIDE OF PHOENIX.
|butterfly||Thomas Sloan in Oakwood|
I tried to find the marker today, but was not successful. Perhaps it is still under the snow. Will try again.
|James Bellert||Fred E. Mayhew Grave Marker|
Hi. I got the photo of the marker you requested for Fred E. Mayhew. Actually, I'm sorry to report there is no marker on his grave. And he is listed in the cemetery records as Fred E. Maynard. There is no record for Fred E. Mayhew in the office.
I found the location which is listed in the office. He is buried in Section 6B, Block 4, Lot 36, Grave 5. I found the location in the cemetery and photographed the section location marker to show I did find it. There are six graves in that Lot 36, but only 5 markers and Fred's is not marked. There is one unmarked space in that lot, and I photographed that space. I checked all the markers in all the adjacent lots, but there just is no marker for Fred E. Maynard. Sorry. There was no Rose nearby or Reikowski either.
|Michigan mother||Gladys Wolf 110650780|
Just accepted the edits that you sent on Gladys.
Would you like a transfer? I have no connection to her. Just saw her marker in the cemetery and photographed it.
I enjoyed your detailed writing on all the research into your genealogy. Good work...
I am not sure many people would go to all that work and commitment. They are lucky to have you on here.
|Michigan mother||GladysWolf 110650780|
|Barbara Wolf||Charles Squires, Cosperville|
Are you sure he is buried at this cemetery? I can find no record of him in the Noble County records. Barb
|Jason A||Update edit on Linda Mentink|
Hello, I corrected the SP to SP 1 on Plot location. Thank you for your BIO and the helpful tips. Please don't hesitate if you need a photo or some help hunting down information in the Winnebago County, WI area. -Jason
Added by Jason A on Mar 17, 2015 8:23 PM
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