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Fred Saar (#46511066)
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Mainly located in Ulster and Columbia Counties in New York.

Please do not request to add a birth date calculated from the gravestone, unless the complete age is known or listed (y/m/d). Dates that do not agree with stone and are not primary sourced will be placed in the bio section or declined.

Transfer requests must be submitted via a SAC and must provide the exact relationship and be within guidelines.
Determine if you really need the memorial transferred to you for management. Transferring of management should only be requested if you have extensive changes to make to a memorial. You can add photos and suggest corrections without having to request management. Simply having someone in your family tree outside guidelines is not grounds for a management transfer request. Transfer requests that do not include relationship to deceased or are out of guidelines are deleted.

Upon request, personal use of photos will be given with proper credit or a findagrave link.

Sorry, I had to remove my email as to many incomplete requests were being sent instead of using a SAC.


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Debra Cebulski
RE: Hannah (Hulse) Munsell, Find A Grave Memorial 66465261
Dear Mr. Saar:

Thanks so much for getting back to me on your vacation! I greatly appreciate it.

Enjoy your well-deserved time off, and I look forward to hearing from you again some time after your return.

Many thanks and best regards,

Debra Cebulski
Added by Debra Cebulski on Aug 23, 2016 6:02 PM
itsjanw
James B. Thornton 36030544
Could you please attach this to your memorial. I believe the info would be valuable to members of his family!

Death of Hon. James B. Thornton. -- Died at Callao, Peru, on the 25th of January last, Hon. James B. Thornton, Charge de Affaires from the United States to Peru, aged 37. “He had been absent," says the U. S. Consul, "a few weeks on a visit to Valparaiso, and returned to Callao on the 23d, in the U. 8. sloop Falmouth. On his passage he was attacked with dysentery, which resisted all medical skill, and he died on the second day after his arrival. His remains were interred on the 26th, in the British cemetery at Bella Vista, a small village between Lima and Callao, and were accompanied by a detachment of English, French and American seamen and marines, by the officers of all the foreign vessels of war in Callao, by a detachment of Peruvian troops, and the officers of the garrison at Callao, by officers appointed by and representing the Supreme Government to which the deceased was accredited, by the members of the diplomatic corps at Lima, and by a numerous and respectable concourse of his fellow citizens and foreigners resident in Lima."
Mr. Thornton was born in Merrimack, in this State. He was the son of the late James Thornton,Esq., and grandson of Hen. Matthew Thornton, one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence. He received his education at Yale College, and after studying law in this town, commenced practice in his native village in 1825. But although he bid fair to become an ornament to his profession, for him political life possessed more attractions than the bar. In 1827 he was elected a Representative in the State Legislature, and re-elected the three following years. In 1829 he was chosen Speaker of the House, and again in 1830. Few men have performed the duties of the chair to more general satisfaction. During the session, in June, 1830, he was appointed Second Comptroller of the Treasury, after the rejection of Mr. Hill. He accepted the appointment, and immediately removed to Washington. This office he held with credit to himself and the nation until the autumn of 1836, when he was appointed Charge de Affaires to Peru. He sailed for Callao in October, 1836. Having performed the duties of his mission faithfully, his heart yearned for his native home, as he said in a letter received a few weeks since, and
he was preparing to return and take up his permanent residence in the State, when he was suddenly struck down, and all his plans and prospects blasted. His arrival was expected almost daily by his friends, when the sad intelligence reached them that he was no more! He left a widow and two children to mourn this afflicting bereavement. -- Nashua (N.H.) Gazette

The Madisonian, May 29, 1838, Washington, DC
Added by itsjanw on Aug 23, 2016 9:38 AM
itsjanw
James B. Thornton 36030544
Could you please attach this to your memorial. I believe the info would be valuable to members of his family!

eath of Hon. James B. Thornton. -- Died at Callao, Peru, on the 25th of January last, Hon. James B. Thornton, Charge de Affaires from the United States to Peru, aged 37. “He had been absent," says the U. S. Consul, "a few weeks on a visit to Valparaiso, and returned to Callao on the 23d, in the U. 8. sloop Falmouth. On his passage he was attacked with dysentery, which resisted all medical skill, and he died on the second day after his arrival. His remains were interred on the 26th, in the British cemetery at Bella Vista, a small village between Lima and Callao, and were accompanied by a detachment of English, French and American seamen and marines, by the officers of all the foreign vessels of war in Callao, by a detachment of Peruvian troops, and the officers of the garrison at Callao, by officers appointed by and representing the Supreme Government to which the deceased was accredited, by the members of the diplomatic corps at Lima, and by a numerous and respectable concourse of his fellow citizens and foreigners resident in Lima."
Mr. Thornton was born in Merrimack, in this State. He was the son of the late James Thornton,Esq., and grandson of Hen. Matthew Thornton, one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence. He received his education at Yale College, and after studying law in this town, commenced practice in his native village in 1825. But although he bid fair to become an ornament to his profession, for him political life possessed more attractions than the bar. In 1827 he was elected a Representative in the State Legislature, and re-elected the three following years. In 1829 he was chosen Speaker of the House, and again in 1830. Few men have performed the duties of the chair to more general satisfaction. During the session, in June, 1830, he was appointed Second Comptroller of the Treasury, after the rejection of Mr. Hill. He accepted the appointment, and immediately removed to Washington. This office he held with credit to himself and the nation until the autumn of 1836, when he was appointed Charge de Affaires to Peru. He sailed for Callao in October, 1836. Having performed the duties of his mission faithfully, his heart yearned for his native home, as he said in a letter received a few weeks since, and
he was preparing to return and take up his permanent residence in the State, when he was suddenly struck down, and all his plans and prospects blasted. His arrival was expected almost daily by his friends, when the sad intelligence reached them that he was no more! He left a widow and two children to mourn this afflicting bereavement. -- Nashua (N.H.) Gazette

The Madisonian, May 29, 1838, Washington, DC
Added by itsjanw on Aug 23, 2016 9:37 AM
Debra Cebulski
Hannah (Hulse) Munsell, Find A Grave Memorial 66465261
Dear Mr. Saar:

My name is Debra Cebulski, and I am a descendant of Hannah Hulse Munsell. You prepared her Find A Grave entry and state that her birth and death dates come from DAR records. I thought I knew my line and I was unaware that we might have a Patriot among the Long Island Munsells. (There are a few on among the Connecticut line.) I checked the Long Island Genealogy Web site, and there was nothing about Hannah's ancestors on her many listings, just her descendants. I ran her through the DAR database online but she wasn't in there.

Do you have any other information on Hannah, such as which Patriot she is related to and how?

Also, is there a gravestone for her? There was no photo. I live in Boston, Massachusetts, not that far a ferry ride and drive away from Long Island, and I would like to be able to pay my respects if I am in the area.

Any help you can provide will be gratefully appreciated.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Many thanks and best regards,

Debra Cebulski
Added by Debra Cebulski on Aug 22, 2016 8:25 PM
Larry G Britner
Vera Lavina "Vera" Elchert Strausbaugh
Just had an e-mail sent to you as a duplicate, but after the fact realizing that the duplicate was of an unknown cemetery with the time expired on a "temporary" entry per find-a-grave standards.

"Location of body unknown is used for recent deaths where the disposition is not currently known. Final disposition must be determined and updated within 30 days." and the page dated Jan 08, 2012.
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Created by: Forget me not!!
Record added: Jan 08, 2012
Find A Grave Memorial# 83126607

noting that it has a brief obit without crediting source that you might wish to add to your page. Also, shouldn't show "Vera" as both her given mane while also showing as a nickname.

just me, larry g


Added by Larry G Britner on Aug 13, 2016 1:09 PM
Wanda L
Ebenezer McIntier

Ebenezer McIntier in the
Massachusetts, Town and Vital
Records, 1620-1988

Name: Ebenezer McIntier
Event Type: Death
Death Date: 20 Jan 1843
Death Place:
Charlton, Massachusetts
Spouse Name: Mary
Added by Wanda L on Aug 09, 2016 11:06 PM
Jeanne Kiefer
Krum Stones
Hi Fred: I wonder if you can tell me where you found the five Krum gravestones (Martin, Jacob, Barbary, etc.) in Chatham Center, NY. I'm working on the Krum family history (mostly in the Krum cemetery in Hillsdale) and would like to go to the spot and view these outliers, if possible. You created the entry in 2014. I am wondering if this might be a small family plot on private land? Thanks for your help.
Jeanne Kiefer (Hillsdale, NY)
Added by Jeanne Kiefer on Aug 07, 2016 4:05 PM
Valice Raffi
Louise and Paul Hoff
Thanks for updating their memorials!
Added by Valice Raffi on Aug 03, 2016 8:29 AM
Don Blauvelt
Lothrop-Lathrop reference
Find A Grave contributor Fred Saar has made a suggestion to you regarding your Find A Grave memorial for John Lothrop.
Link to memorial: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=46890514
Link to contributor profile: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=mr&MRid=46511066

Their suggestion:
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duplicate of prior memorial 25353379
Added by Don Blauvelt on Jul 24, 2016 10:44 PM
Don Blauvelt
John Lothrop-John Lathrop
Hello,

Yes, there is a duplicate memorial for Capt. John Lothrop, and it is intentional due to the maintainer of the earlier memorial refusing to correct the surname from Lathrop to Lothrop, using the crutch that the surname is spelled Lathrop on the gravestone.

The immigrant Rev. John Lothrop of Barnstable, Mass. is the Lothrop family patriarch. The memorial library at Barnstable is named Lothrop, the main cemetery in Barnstable is named Lothrop Hill, and the 1884 genealogy of the family is called the "Lo-Lathrop" family, not the "La-Lothrop" family.

Rev. John Lothrop was twice married and had six sons. His 2nd son Samuel, by the Rev.'s 1st wife, relocated in 1648 to New London, Connecticut and eventually to Norwich, Conn. Late in life Samuel's great great grandson, Dr. David Lothrop (Thomas, Samuel, Samuel Rev. John), became convinced the original spelling of the family name was Lathrop, and convinced everyone else in the Samuel Lothrop branch to adopt the spelling Lathrop. Prior to this conversion, Dr. David's, as well as all of the then living and previous generations of the Norwich family, are recorded by the surname of Lothrop in vital records, church records, deeds, probate records, etc. However, by 1800 the Samuel Lothrop line began adopting the surname of Lathrop. Because Samuel got a head start in family creation and there was a preponderance of sons in the resulting generations, those surnamed Lathrop now represent the largest number of the descendants of Rev. John Lothrop.

On the other hand, the branches of the five other Lothrop sons whose descendants remained for several generations in greater Barnstable, Mass. never changed the family surname to Lathrop. When several of the male Barnstable lines began migrated to Connecticut in the 1700s, their vital records, deeds, church records, probate records, etc. are by the surname of Lothrop. And, those lines resided in Connecticut other than in the immediate vicinity of Norwich.

Regardless of what Connecticut town it pertained to, Louis Barbour in his Connecticut Vital records alphabetized the surname of Lothrop in his headings as "Lathrop, Lothrop." People referring solely to those vital records have renamed the separate "Lothrop" surnamed branches of the family as "Lathrop." This directly impacts the context of which branch the numerous lines of the family came from, as well as the surname of the daughters at marriage.

Expediency has no place in serious genealogy study or in Find-a-grave memorials.

Regards,
Don Blauvelt
Added by Don Blauvelt on Jul 20, 2016 8:12 AM
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