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history4sure (#46997739)
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Bio Photo Note: You know, I'm a really kind person. I always pretty well mind my own business; but lately, I lose patience with those who, not only fill their profile page with "their rules", but have the audacity to leave instructions that the rest of us should not leave religious tokens unless we know for sure what the deceased's affiliation was, or etc., etc.! It is perfectly wonderful if a contributor says, "please don't leave this or that" on their OWN memorials - but to put out orders for the entire world of memorials is just narcissistic [do you ever wonder why someone has not just hit them in the face with a shovel? LOL]

I am willing to transfer any memorials which are not my ancestors or relatives and will try to help anyone with information or research. I think it is important to identify persons, when possible, so we can know who they are and who their families are, for historical and personal reasons.
2016 Update:
Sixty seven years ago I started looking for lost graves as Grandma sent me, at age 8, to find "the indention by the pine tree, near great great grandpa's headstone" so she could place flowers where a baby was buried in 1869 with no "marker". From her, I learned to look for that tiny "frosted" spot when the night before had been chilly (the ground is still warmer at a burial site which has no vault, even after 100's of years!)
I first knew grief when Grandma died, 60 years ago. To honor her, I began genealogy research from her precious family records. Fifty five years ago the death of my young first husband, at the hands of robbers, nearly caused the loss of my first unborn child. Years later, a miscarriage took another son and now, for the past 31 years, we have also grieved for our youngest son, lost to a freak accident. Brad
Writing personal histories has been a passion for over 40 years, since I found my relationship to Mormon Battalion soldiers and an early U.S. President.
Being an unpaid cemetery sexton for the past 25 years has required mapping and recording (handwritten) of over 3,000 birth & death locations and overseeing burials and settings of gravestones for some 950 persons. During this time, the birth and death records from 1854 at one cemetery and from 1869 to date, at another, were located and recorded; exact grave locations had never been written down for 155 years! I'm still hand drawing family lot maps for the latter cemetery for all owners.
For over 30 years, I have composed poetry and short stories about loved ones' passing, both for my own and others.
So, am I a "graver" ?, a "griever", a "genealogist", a "historian", a "sexton", a "poet" or just kind of "nutty"?? (We ALL could have, instead of this, been lounging on "sum beach sum where", ya know!)
Anyway, I feel sad when an unkind remark is posted, or it is stated that Find a Grave was designed for one purpose and that "newcomers", who want to use it for genealogy, or some other reason than it was originally intended, should go elsewhere. I hope it is intended to help us all find burial locations, which should include photos, dates, and family links, if possible for proper identification.
Short bios also help identify specific individuals and search data sources can help us verify the positive location. That is why I believe that a gravestone, with poor or misinterpreted information, should be supplemented with the best historical facts available, if possible. After all, it is Find a Grave, not "Find a Stone". Sometimes, nothing else is available, but that is a sad case; unknown, with unknown dates does not tell us much, especially when there is no stone or it is illegible.
I hope to help & will gladly transfer, edit, delete or correct anything I contribute; I'm slow, but I'm OLD, please have patience!


Suprise! Thanks so much to Renee for the Sponsorship of Our Sweet Rose...what an honor to be cared for by such a dedicated animal lover.

I am grateful AGAIN to Love Always, Renee for the sponsorship of my beloved Daddy - what a generous contributor she is...check out her loving memorials!


PLEASE NOTE: Check the top center of your profile page - if an "edit" tab is there - you need to click on it and check to approve or reject any edits that may have been sent to you - only a few email "edit" notices are coming from fag since this new feature was added.

Sorry, I have to laugh.... recently seen on a gravestone, (wife's, Jo Ann's stone) "DO NOT STAND AT MY GRAVE AND CRY, I AM NOT HERE, I DID NOT DIE" ...alongside on the husband's stone, "JO ANN - IF WE DID NOT DIE, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE?".... [ I SAID I'm sorry! ]
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Gloria Lowrey
Katherine Elizabeth Pirrung
Thank you for the "heads up" regarding the year of death on Katie's grave stone versus the date on her death certificate. I have added your note in the bio section of Katie's memorial page. I have no explanation for the discrepancy. Surprisingly, this is not the first time that I have encountered this problem. Hard to imagine how this could happen!
Added by Gloria Lowrey on Apr 27, 2016 7:38 AM
Love Always, Renee
You always make me smile
Hi Shirleen, I hope you are doing well and enjoying the spring weather. This is the best time of the year for walking our dogs, not too hot, not too cold. Thanks for visiting my loved ones memorials. I try to keep up with the daily flowers for Birthday and Angel Days. I also try to visit memorial pages for the loved ones of my friends. You are so dear to me and I pray for you and other Find A Grave friends. Peace be with you.
Added by Love Always, Renee on Apr 24, 2016 10:38 AM
Barnet/Waterford history
That first bold-faced paragraph in your profile ... BOLD and says what too many of us feel.
Added by Barnet/Waterford history on Apr 22, 2016 7:56 PM
Barnet/Waterford history
RE: Your bio
Sorry, VERY sorry, if you have mis-interpreted my meaning.
The husband of Submit Purchase is never in local records refered to as other than "James Adams".
Their son is only refered to as "James Jr" or "Calendar".
The info you send about Submit's husband (the father's) middle name also being "Callendar/Calendar" is unknown to the St Johnsbury Historical Society and gratefully appreciated.
As Submit's family were the first settlers of our town, IF you have scans of records of Submit, her husband, or children, they would be more valuable to us than I can possibly express.

Added by Barnet/Waterford history on Apr 22, 2016 7:53 PM
Barnet/Waterford history
RE: Your bio
Oops, meant to say "upper 20's"
Thanks again
Added by Barnet/Waterford history on Apr 22, 2016 7:33 PM
Barnet/Waterford history
RE: Your bio
Seems backward; but, since weatherman says "upper 50's tonight", I'll take a peek in the AM. THANKS!
Added by Barnet/Waterford history on Apr 22, 2016 7:31 PM
Barnet/Waterford history
Your bio
You have me confused with "that tiny "frosted" spot when the night before had been chilly (the ground is still warmer at a burial site which has no vault)" - seems if the ground is warmer, it should not be "frosted".
I ask because I had never heard this, only that the grass turns brown earlier in August because the loose earth is dryier.
Am trying to identify the location of an unmarked pauper's grave from the 1950s that is given as one location by witnesses at the funeral and another by cemetery records. We really do not wish to have him dug up while burying someone else, nor sell an occupied lot.
We are still getting a bit of frost some mornings, so I just have a small chance of trying your grmo's "trick".
Do I look for "frost" or "frost-free"???
Added by Barnet/Waterford history on Apr 21, 2016 3:28 PM
Michael Auger
RE: 150882128 - photo
My pleasure Shirleen! Glad I helped you piece the parts together. It is funny I had gone to the cemetery for the first time (we just moved here) and started randomly snapping photos of stones that somehow appealed to me. Once I got home and checked this site I realized most were already attached to memorials, but was pleased that this and another photo were "new". I just uploaded the pic to the original memorial. Mike
Added by Michael Auger on Apr 20, 2016 8:03 PM
Charlie Vines
RE: Eagles of Apperley
Thank you for your permission to use your data. I will be sure to list you as the source for the biographies and other data that can help.

My son-in-law descends from Daniel Browett Harris.

At the moment, what I have is posted at The Vines Family Research Center - I am in the process of developing a site at rootsweb's freepages, so I am re-visiting my data to insure no errors and to see if I can come by any other data.

If you would like to contact me offline, my address is

Added by Charlie Vines on Apr 17, 2016 3:43 PM
Love Always, Renee
RE: Thinking of you
I bet that cemetery looks beautiful. You are so awesome to take care of the cemetery. Tell your friends who work with you on the cemetery that I say extra prayers for them for their good work. Hugs, Renee
Added by Love Always, Renee on Apr 14, 2016 5:05 PM
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