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history4sure (#46997739)
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Bio Photo I am willing to transfer any memorials which are not my ancestors or relatives and will try to help anyone with information or research. I think it is important to identify persons, when possible, so we can know who they are and who their families are, for historical and personal reasons.
2014 Update:
Sixty five years ago I started looking for lost graves as Grandma sent me, at age 8, to find "the indention by the pine tree, near great great grandpa's headstone" so she could place flowers where a baby was buried in 1869 with no "marker". From her, I learned to look for that tiny "frosted" spot when the night before had been chilly (the ground is still warmer at a burial site which has no vault, even after 100's of years!)
I first knew grief when Grandma died, 58 years ago. To honor her, I began genealogy research from her precious family records. Fifty four years ago the death of my young first husband, at the hands of robbers, nearly caused the loss of my first unborn child. Years later, a miscarriage took another son and now, for the past 29 years, we have also grieved for our youngest son, lost to a freak accident. Brad
Writing personal histories has been a passion for nearly 40 years, since I found my relationship to Mormon Battalion soldiers and an early U.S. President.
Being an unpaid cemetery sexton for the past 23 years has required mapping and recording (handwritten) of over 3,000 birth & death locations and overseeing burials and settings of gravestones for some 750 persons. During this time, the birth and death records from 1854 at one cemetery and from 1869 to date, at another, were located and recorded; exact grave locations had never been written down for 155 years! I'm still hand drawing family lot maps for the latter cemetery for all owners.
For about 30 years, I have composed poetry and short stories about loved ones' passing, both for my own and others.
So, am I a "graver" ?, a "griever", a "genealogist", a "historian", a "sexton", a "poet" or just kind of "nutty"?? (We ALL could have, instead of this, been lounging on "sum beach sum where", ya know!)
Anyway, I feel sad when an unkind remark is posted, or it is stated that Find a Grave was designed for one purpose and that "newcomers", who want to use it for genealogy, or some other reason than it was originally intended, should go elsewhere. I hope it is intended to help us all find burial locations, which should include photos, dates, and family links, if possible for proper identification.
Short bios also help identify specific individuals and search data sources can help us verify the positive location. That is why I believe that a gravestone, with poor or misinterpreted information, should be supplemented with the best historical facts available, if possible. After all, it is Find a Grave, not "Find a Stone". Sometimes, nothing else is available, but that is a sad case; unknown, with unknown dates does not tell us much, especially when there is no stone or it is illegible.
I hope to help & will gladly transfer, edit, delete or correct anything I contribute; I'm slow, but I'm OLD, please have patience!


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Angie Knott
RE: Hoover - Boulder Dam
Hi Shirleen, that is so cool. You are the first person I have contact with that had relatives who worked at Boulder Dam. I was born and raised in Las Vegas, moved to Texas when I was 20. I also made a page at entitled "Hoover Dam" if you would like to list your father. Thanks for writing!
Added by Angie Knott on Aug 21, 2014 8:28 PM
Thank you for taking the time out to look up 'family' for me. I will look into it and get back to you. My mom didn't leave a lot of papers behind and suspect she threw out many documents in her later years. Mom told me she was sorting them and she gave a lot to her younger sister. But someone else looked up Wm Livingston and it turns out not his real name. His mom got remarried and he took his stepfather's surname. So with my family changing names, it's hard to find them. My grandfather, according to my mom, hated his name Wm and went by his middle name. So he was known as Ralph Livingston (which is his 1st born son's name). But in reality, his real name is William Ralph Sensabaugh.

It was my pleasure to visit your son. I lost a son too. The void just doesn't go away. Just feels different as the time goes by in my opinion.

Thank you for the information. I deeply appreciate it.


Added by Joyce on Aug 18, 2014 4:18 PM
Biggar Family
Thank you so much for that site, it's working really well for my research on the Biggar family. I've found out everything I was wondering, and I'm sure I can use it to locate other families I am looking into. Thanks again! :)
Added by Morpheus on Aug 18, 2014 2:44 PM
RE: Joseph H. Alexander
You are welcome!
Added by mwbowen on Aug 18, 2014 7:22 AM
RE: Rosie
You are welcome! It's always nice to meet another Rosie :-)
Added by Rosie♥Mooch on Aug 13, 2014 6:36 PM
rosie mcnaughton
Hi Shirleen,
Thank you for your note on Lucinda Baker. My cousin and I are blood related through our mothers. Lucinda is on her father's side. She (her name is Shirley!) has done the research. Lucinda's maiden name was Boothe so it's misspelled on the marriage record, and the dates you give are correct for her. I've run into the problem of misspelled names a LOT. She and Alonzo were married 14 Jun 1852, and apparently she found the info in a handwritten note from a family descendant. She was born 02 Jul, 1826. Alonzo was born 15 Aug, 1815, both in New York state. Shirley doesn't have any info in the tree on other marriages for these people. I will add a note to the memorials to reflect the marriage date, when I get a minute. When I get in touch with my cousin, I will try to remember to ask about other spouses. Speaking of "remember", Alonzo's father was Remember Baker. You'd think that would be easy to follow. However, I think he was Remember number III. It is one of the most confusing things I've dealt with. There is also a relative named Orange Baker. Thanks for the help. Have a great week.
Added by rosie mcnaughton on Aug 11, 2014 7:34 AM
Paul Rolfe
I looked for Edward, Shirley and Wilmie Ward in the Walnut Hill Cemeteries. I do not see any of the three although there are two E. A. Ward graves - one died in 1891 and the other in 1928; they are buried beside each other but with no other Ward. Wilmie does not appear as a Wyman either; I have posted all seven of the Wyman graves in the Walnut Hill Cemeteries. In a separate note: I looked for Flood graves who might be related to Letitia. There are only three Flood graves in these cemeteries so I posted all three on Find A Grave. Section 06, where the Flood graves are, adjoins section 01, where the Wyman graves are and the two grave lots are probably about 25 feet apart.
Added by Paul Rolfe on Aug 10, 2014 12:39 PM
rosie mcnaughton
I am sorry for the loss of your son. I found his page on his Angel Day through Rosie's listing of Rosie the dog. My name is Rosie too. Could get confusing like those relatives who named everyone the same name down through the generations.
I read some of your bio page and it bothers me too that there are unkind things said by a few who seem to think they own the site. Thankfully, there are just a few. This site means something different to everyone who contributes. I list ancestors that I don't have burial info on so, hopefully, someone will provide it, and quite often, that happens eventually. I recently got a message from a person whose ancestor was a little boy who died young. When I first became a member, I had put a whimsical token on his page. This person seemed very angry with me and told me to remove it and put something more appropriate on it. I was appalled. I would never disrespect someone's memorial. I removed it, but did not add anything else. I also deleted their message because I didn't want anyone else to see it.
I know this is a bad day for you, and I hope you find comfort in your memories. And you are not old. I'm 71, and I'm not old so you can't be!
Added by rosie mcnaughton on Aug 10, 2014 8:53 AM
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Thank you for Sir Lancelot's note, very sweet and cute.
Added by Charlie Faye Dickerson Yo... on Aug 10, 2014 7:53 AM
Paul Rolfe
Albert Wyman #116939822
I thought you may be interested to know, Albert's wife Harriet was posted by a local volunteer and I added his young son Burton and young daughter Hattie both of whom are buried beside him and Harriet. There are two more Wymans buried by them - Letitia and Marion. I entered memorials and I am searching now to identify their relationship so they may be linked. I do not know the family, just happen to live near by and appreciate your contribution to this site.
Added by Paul Rolfe on Aug 08, 2014 7:38 PM
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