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First, my deepest thanks to those who have kept my spirits up by being supportive friends and who have honored my dear ones so faithfully.|
I still find myself trying to focus on the theme of rebirth, and trying to shake the gloom of the losses of 2012.
2014's start has been rocky with the loss of three of my guiding lights; our Romberger Family Association founder, the gent who found our original immigrant ancestor and his family home in Germany, a friend and genealogical mentor has passed. Thank you if you can honor Dr. John A. Romberger. The day we laid Dr. John to rest, another Doctor left us - my dear godfather, Dr. Edwin R. Baldrige. Not long after that, my sweet silversmithing teacher, Jane Martindell passed as well. It sort of feels like my mentors are all taking flight.
I'm finding using the site difficult right now. Some people have found it very therapeutic after a loss. Unfortunately, it has the opposite effect on me; I see all the losses of my fellow contributors, and it makes me feel terrible. I see your now-gone loved ones, and in a small way I re-live the loss of my loved ones. I think my feelings are still too close to the surface to be so easily stirred.
If you have a moment, would you kindly visit Randall Buckley? This is our friend Paula's brother.
If you are wondering whom else to visit, perhaps you'd kindly look in on my dearest.
If you have a moment, would you please send prayers to fellow contributor Ann H?
And if you have another moment, please consider leaving a token for our fellow contributor, White Light.
Picture use: You are welcome to use pictures for personal use, but I do NOT consent for their use online or on commercial or paid sites. FindAGrave is about sharing what you know, and I will not have my good will co-opted and monetized. I saw some of my pics stolen from here and put on ancestry.com and I am taking action to correct this.
Transfers and suggestions: Forgive me, but experience has been a harsh teacher. I used to be very cool about transferring, but I've had about enough of being easy about this. I'll gladly transfer the memorials of anyone not related or without meaning to me in a heartbeat, and I have hundreds to give away. But on family, I'm adopted, working on both birth and adopted families. I have a lot of family to cover, possibly double the size of yours, and I have not articulated my relationship to the subject of every memorial for privacy reasons. Rather than quibble, I would be gladder still to improve a memorial with your suggestions sent via SAC. Let's do the right thing and make the memorial accurate, suitable and a reflection of that person's life. You can put the improved memorial in a "virtual cemetery" without needing ownership of it, as I have done with relatives that other contributors have added to the site. I can add links or the info you wish, and you are welcome to add pictures.
On the other hand, if the memorial is one I have added by chance or the subject is no one related to me or is one to whom I have no attachment, I will offer to transfer instantly.
FindAGrave memorials are online representations of real graves, not trading cards. I don't collect them for numbers and am frankly relieved to see them go to family if they have no connection and meaning to me. There are relatives of mine another contributor has memorialized on the site that I do not "own" and have not asked for, content that I have added the info I have, and linked them to their kin.
"Many African societies divide humans into three categories; those still alive on earth, the sasha, and the zamani. The recently departed whose time on earth overlapped with people still here are the sasha, the living-dead. They are not wholly dead, for they still live in the memories of the living, who can call them to mind, create their likeness in art, and bring them to life in anecdote. When the last person to know an ancestor dies, that ancestor leaves the sasha for the zamani, the dead. As generalized ancestors, the zamani are not forgotten but revered. Many can be recalled by name. But they are not living-dead. There is a difference." -- from "Lies My Teacher Told Me" by James Loewen
So perhaps the progression of the living to the sasha to the zamani cannot be helped, but we record here those we knew, both sasha and zamani, and leave some record of them. And if they are sashas to us, perhaps our record keeps them sashas longer as we offer our first hand accounts of them.
It bothers me that time passes, because I sense my friends and family members moving out of sight as they pass through the celestial plan, or whatever you like to call it. I am just conscious that our grip on those we know and love is constantly eroding. I think this is why I have been drawn to FindAGrave; I can't stop people from dying, but I can stop them from being forgotten, and can see the lives of people other contributors feel the same about, those they don't want to shift out of focus as time clouds memories and people who knew others pass on. Here, at least, we can freeze them in time and recount all that made them good or special.
Your visits to my loved ones mean a lot to me. They mean my folks here are not forgotten, and honor people I really loved or respected or took the time to research, so thank you. I enjoy honoring people remembered on Find a Grave, and do take the time to read bio info on memorials. I appreciate knowing about the people other folks want remembered.
Every memorial entered here has been done with respect and good intent, in the hopes dear ones will not be forgotten. Any concerns, additions and so on are most welcome here on this page.
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|McHunter45||George Copenhaver FAG#9733372|
Thank you for adding "Copenhaver Remembered and Restored". My grandfather, Frank Welsh Copenhaver was a half-brother of George's. George's half-brothers and sisters remember having dinner with Prudence and George where they lived at the Milton Hershey School. Mary Copenhaver Hunter
|RMW||RE: thank you...|
You are welcome.
Added by RMW on Jun 15, 2014 12:21 AM
|michael ||RE: thanks for your note|
Thank you very much for the connections. I showed my mother the sight of her Aunt and she was very happy to see the sight. However, I'm still new to grave finders and I'm learning more about grave finders. I am not sure what it means to sponsor The sight or what responsibilities are required. I am not on the computer that often. I am still thrilled with what you have done for us. Thank you Mike Haggerty
Added by michael on Jun 12, 2014 5:53 PM
|LeRoy Wilcox||RE: Amending previous note...|
Thanks for the data on the Ettingers. Wondering if you have a list of Milton's children. If I find more info will certainly send it. thanks again.
|Pat D.||RE: More on Hiram Ettinger|
I looked over what I had on Hiram Ettinger in my "Rachel Gehman" Tree", which is my tree for Macungie folks. I don't have as much as I thought. The question I am wondering is when Hiram married Anna Desch, because that would help determine the parentage of the children, and help sort out the wives.
I suspect some of the Desch family were associated with the Baptist church in Macungie, which is very close to Solomon's UCC on Church St.in Macungie. In fact, the cemeteries behind the churches are adjacent to each other. Actually, there are 3 cemeteries in one back there, the other being the Union(Lutheran and Reform).
It may be there is more information to be found in these Macungie Baptist records. (I do not have these).
In any case, my "Rachel Gehman Tree" is a public tree, and based upon the extensive photo albums of my Aunt Rachel.( An Ettinger married one of her relatives.)
(A quick search for father Levi Ettinger in Berks Co., so far has not found him or the family.
Good Luck on your search and glad to have helped with the Death certificate. I am still not 100% that Sarah and Anna are the same wife, but we will see.
Added by Pat D. on Jun 05, 2014 1:18 PM
I am related to Julia Watts, but distantly. He husband Thomas is a brother to our direct line Mary Ann Watts born 1814 who married Isaac Winey. These are my husbands 4th greatgrandparents. I only census information on her, if you want that I can send it. I have no personal information about her.
Added by Odette on Jun 05, 2014 12:51 PM
|Pat D.||More on Hiram Ettinger|
Ancestry now has PA Death Certificates available from 1904 to 1924. Hiram's PA Death Certificate states he was born 12 May 1848 in Berks County to Levi Ettinger and his w.(unknown) Bittner. It states he was married at the time of his death; his wife was not the person who signed as informant.
He was retired when he died in Bethlehem 3 June 1915; he was buried in Fairview Cemetery in the same town.
Added by Pat D. on Jun 05, 2014 12:17 PM
|Pat D.||More on Hiram Ettinger.|Added by Pat D. on Jun 05, 2014 12:11 PM
|Pat D.||Ettinger tombstone|
I added the nickname Sarah. If I remember correctly, Hiram Ettinger had several wives, and there is a bit of confusion about their identities, and even about how many there were.
I am pretty sure I have more info on him, and his descendants on my Ancestry tree. Pat D.
Added by Pat D. on Jun 04, 2014 10:35 PM
You're very welcome, I'm glad that you liked the additional to his memorial.
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