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history4sure (#46997739)
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Bio Photo I am willing to transfer any memorials which are not my ancestors or relatives and will try to help anyone with information or research. I think it is important to identify persons, when possible, so we can know who they are and who their families are, for historical and personal reasons.
2015 Update:
Sixty six years ago I started looking for lost graves as Grandma sent me, at age 8, to find "the indention by the pine tree, near great great grandpa's headstone" so she could place flowers where a baby was buried in 1869 with no "marker". From her, I learned to look for that tiny "frosted" spot when the night before had been chilly (the ground is still warmer at a burial site which has no vault, even after 100's of years!)
I first knew grief when Grandma died, 59 years ago. To honor her, I began genealogy research from her precious family records. Fifty four years ago the death of my young first husband, at the hands of robbers, nearly caused the loss of my first unborn child. Years later, a miscarriage took another son and now, for the past 30 years, we have also grieved for our youngest son, lost to a freak accident. Brad
Writing personal histories has been a passion for nearly 40 years, since I found my relationship to Mormon Battalion soldiers and an early U.S. President.
Being an unpaid cemetery sexton for the past 24 years has required mapping and recording (handwritten) of over 3,000 birth & death locations and overseeing burials and settings of gravestones for some 750 persons. During this time, the birth and death records from 1854 at one cemetery and from 1869 to date, at another, were located and recorded; exact grave locations had never been written down for 155 years! I'm still hand drawing family lot maps for the latter cemetery for all owners.
For about 30 years, I have composed poetry and short stories about loved ones' passing, both for my own and others.
So, am I a "graver" ?, a "griever", a "genealogist", a "historian", a "sexton", a "poet" or just kind of "nutty"?? (We ALL could have, instead of this, been lounging on "sum beach sum where", ya know!)
Anyway, I feel sad when an unkind remark is posted, or it is stated that Find a Grave was designed for one purpose and that "newcomers", who want to use it for genealogy, or some other reason than it was originally intended, should go elsewhere. I hope it is intended to help us all find burial locations, which should include photos, dates, and family links, if possible for proper identification.
Short bios also help identify specific individuals and search data sources can help us verify the positive location. That is why I believe that a gravestone, with poor or misinterpreted information, should be supplemented with the best historical facts available, if possible. After all, it is Find a Grave, not "Find a Stone". Sometimes, nothing else is available, but that is a sad case; unknown, with unknown dates does not tell us much, especially when there is no stone or it is illegible.
I hope to help & will gladly transfer, edit, delete or correct anything I contribute; I'm slow, but I'm OLD, please have patience!


Suprise! Thanks so much to Renee for the Sponsorship of Our Sweet Rose...what an honor to be cared for by such a dedicated animal lover.

I am grateful AGAIN to Love Always, Renee for the sponsorship of my beloved Daddy - what a generous contributor she is...check out her loving memorials!


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Sharon Welch
RE: Longaker
Sorry I am not familiar with the entire family. I have processed your edits. Thanks so very much for your help.
Added by Sharon Welch on Mar 25, 2015 4:01 PM
Chesnut/Behunin Descendant
2 against 1
2 of these memories claim the same story in different form. One is 66 pages UGG. I download it so I could READ it. The first 3 pages is the other SOURCE copied.
The other is just a simple Family group sheet. What do they know? Well this is the group sheet I received that was done over 50 years ago. AND it is the group sheet I ran with to VERIFY my research. The FGS I received is nto as pretty as that one but I COULD BE WRONG.
I do not think I am but hey.
My other OBSESSION is Writing.
I Fully understand that is MY WORLD. FICTION.
My Writing and obsession with this history do not mix. MAYBE they should...I could easily write 66 pages on my family history and post it for everyone to take as what my mom called Gospel Truth. It does not make my story fact.

I warned you THAT SIDE Of my family, (some)OMG, they are like pitbull protecting their DNA.
Feel free to delete. this is just far easier then adding another tab to track.
Added by Chesnut/Behunin Descendan... on Mar 25, 2015 12:56 PM
Chesnut/Behunin Descendant
Thank you
THANK YOU I got those codes. I have not needed to use them yet BUT THANKYOU.
The family Issue on the tree.
They have been unlinked. Reason not part of family read stuff in Memories.
I DID..... The ONE memory lists parents who I LINKED.
THe one contributor is talking about is the one I HAVE FULL DOUBT and my research in census and stories ..dis prove. BORN that NIGHT they arrived in the U.S.
I am not going to play this game. She can have who she wants in her tree. It is not my place to tell her any different.

Added by Chesnut/Behunin Descendan... on Mar 25, 2015 12:32 PM
KA Miles
Edwin Heber Dugard Crowther
Good Morning !

Brother Crowther is my 3rd Great Grandfather.
I hope you will allow me to begin managing his Memorial. My Find A Grave # is: 48089602

Thank you in advance for your consideration.
Added by KA Miles on Mar 25, 2015 11:30 AM
RE: Photo order
Thank you for making the change and for the information about the two stones. I hadn't noticed that the grey slate one was at a different cemetery(!).

But anyway, it looks very nice now. When one opens the memorial, both of the stones are visible, and as one scrolls down to read, the information about the early settlers comes into view.

I really appreciate all your work on these memorials.

Best wishes.
Added by Flutterby on Mar 24, 2015 8:07 PM
Graveyard Walker
RE: Mabel & Archie
Thank you for the transfers. I appreciate them and can add more information to most of them, if not all of them. I am more directly related to Mabel through the Boyer family if you should run across anyone that seems to be related, keep me in mind.

Again, thank you.
Added by Graveyard Walker on Mar 24, 2015 12:08 PM
Chesnut/Behunin Descendant
RE: past midnight, again!
I posted a request for a Cemetery photo and asked about his wife. So I will cross my fingers.
I have seen you all over THANK YOU For sourcing those censuses for me. You are awesome. I put the NAME of the Cemetery in where is it just town.
Lefor has ONE. But you say buried in SLC and there are dozens. Everyone thinks it is the Big one with the Name. Oddly I do not mind those circles. THANK YOU

Added by Chesnut/Behunin Descendan... on Mar 21, 2015 2:05 PM
Chesnut/Behunin Descendant
RE: okay
He knew I was digging. He knew I was using that site obsessively. He gave me everything he could.
He gave me 1915 to 1920 for their arrival when it was 1898, ugggg. he laughed and apologized when I told him 1898, the ship, spelling and family who came in.
He misidentified a photo that has ALWAYS spoke to me, as my mom Grandpa when it was the other and I found that out AT HIS FUNERAL so I KNOW he made the fix.
Granny just lied and denied. Her perfect son, stuck with it until I had PROOF with photos of one he denied, fixed death [info] with an 11 year error from work HE PUT INTO FS, because Granny never cared to Temple anyone but her family. All I had to do was find the History, the second wife wrote. She was five months pregnant when he died. Her youngest with him was born in 1895/6. {my GGGrandmother, one of the lied and denied plural wives} Granny lived next door to the woman she denied for nearly 10 years. That baby lived two doors for over 50 years.
SHE LIVED with that baby's FULL SISTER my Grandma Grape her entire marriage and next door to her for the last ten years of her life.
All my uncle could say was I was TOO YOUNG to know while he was drooling over the really Cool thing I found trying to Disprove this family because they did not fit what I had been told by him and Granny. I have a newspaper article saying how his Great Grandfather was shot in the shoulder by Indians, while two of his horses were downed because they were tied to his stoop. His eyes are bugging. "How did you find this?"
Because the Guy who Wrote the story to the newspaper happens to be married to the only surviving Daughter of the OTHER LIED AND DENIED Grandfather's FIRST WIFE.
She and her husband moved or was sent south and she is the reason the Other Great Grandfather moved south and they all eventually ended up in the Mormon Colonies in Mexico.
I have this ones Ward Death Record. The ornery koot, I have not found a good thing on him. When the Mexican Revolution broke out, My Great grandparents were just married. Both Families fled Mexico and became refugees. They LEFT him there. First wife died. THe three left. including mine. She returned after she was widowed from a separate and monogamous marriage. I think she put her foot down. She did not need him the way he needed her.
I do not know what my uncle knows. For some reason he REFUSES to give me anything even after I presented Photo, Death Record and among other things a 20 history [1 paragraph] from the youngest wife. He told me she was his step daughter. I already unraveled that but I do agree with my uncles thinking. "If there would have been a decent bone in that body, they would have made a bed for him in that wagon."
BUT he is LINKED in my tree. I have photos of him and all of his wives and all of their different husbands on my fireplace.
The Fights my Dad and Granny would have, would shock your skin cells. Honestly for me it will be easier to have both together. BUT Dad dug in for self defense. I HAD to respect his wishes. He fixes his mis label on that photo. Maybe he guided someone else, knowing I honor my word.
I am going to go play in it now.

Shirleen I LOVE YOU LOTS. You hide your wings.
Added by Chesnut/Behunin Descendan... on Mar 21, 2015 12:47 PM
Chesnut/Behunin Descendant
My mom's side is the one that is whack on that tree. You almost need DNA Proof for Granny's family to accept you as one of theirs. Once that DNA test clears with absolute PROOF you still have to be a clone to them to get anywhere.
Luckily I found another black sheep who was not blacksheeped hmmm until later in her life and she has shared with me EVERYONE and Everything she knows. She kept the roots and her line and sent me everyone in my line.

Added by Chesnut/Behunin Descendan... on Mar 21, 2015 11:02 AM
Chesnut/Behunin Descendant
RE: past midnight, again!
I have just been checking.
Anton's family immigrated in 1898 April or Oct. I think the Huth's were in Oct. I had nothing to verify if he was an infant on the same ship both families came in just April and Oct.
I BELIEVED he was born in N.D. but without something to prove I did not document.
dang it you know I have this information on his parents page. I just check. He is not on the ship list and with the family I have him born and died in Stark c. he probably was not born in Dickinsen. I was playing in this side yesterday. It has been a while. My Dad did not want this stuff on that tree. My mom's mother was an animal to him and left a horrible taste in his mouth. Some one else link him into that tree so yesterday I linked his mothers parents and sourced or am sourcing the census's I have already found them in.
I dreamed last night I was playing in your tree. Likely a lot calmer. My Mom's dad Grampa the awesome guy on my bio pic said I was just a Nut in the family Fruit basket.
THANK YOU on to my Email
Added by Chesnut/Behunin Descendan... on Mar 21, 2015 10:56 AM
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