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Fred Saar (#46511066)
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Mainly located in Ulster and Columbia Counties in New York.

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can you copy to the photo from this memorial to her husband - memorial #141260074? -- thanks so much
Added by Donna on Nov 20, 2016 11:52 AM
bill preston
Infant son Mann @ Briggs Cemetery, Twn Ballston, Saratoga City, N. Y.
Fred: Thank you for accepting and posting the edits, this links the family. Bill Preston in Ballston Spa, NY
Added by bill preston on Nov 09, 2016 1:19 PM
Barbara Keil
Frank C. Joerg
Thank you for adding the photo for my relative. He is in my tree on Ancestry entitled "My Family's Grove." I have used the original form of his name as found in baptismal records ...Franz Casper Jörg.
Added by Barbara Keil on Nov 07, 2016 10:19 AM
Jack Wilson
Elizabeth Elanore Coles Mowbray
Hi, Are you related or just made the memorial?
I have her as Elizabeth Ellen Cowles (Father is John Cowles mother is Elizabeth Kashaw)
It looks like the stone is pretty bad. You have Anning I think maybe Manning.? I will try to find it.
Added by Jack Wilson on Oct 31, 2016 4:59 PM
Marbletown, typo
"Earlier records named this as Marbletown Reformed Dutch Curch Ground" - from your caption under the photo for the cemetery (which is a wonderful cemetery photo!). Please add an "h" to the word church.
I have a new photo of the sign which now reads "North Marbletown Church. High Falls Community Church established 1977"... which is irrelevant because it's still Marbletown Cemetery... and what an appropriate name for an old cemetery. It sure is interesting how places change names over the years.
Thanks for all your great work! Alice
Added by Alice on Oct 20, 2016 6:21 AM
Annis Gardenier
thank you so much for the transfer - it is very appreciated.
Added by Donna on Sep 08, 2016 5:46 AM
Jeanne Kiefer
Krum Stones
Hi Fred: I wonder if you can tell me where you found the five Krum gravestones (Martin, Jacob, Barbary, etc.) in Chatham Center, NY. I'm working on the Krum family history (mostly in the Krum cemetery in Hillsdale) and would like to go to the spot and view these outliers, if possible. You created the entry in 2014. I am wondering if this might be a small family plot on private land? Thanks for your help.
Jeanne Kiefer (Hillsdale, NY)
Added by Jeanne Kiefer on Aug 07, 2016 4:05 PM
Don Blauvelt
Lothrop-Lathrop reference
Find A Grave contributor Fred Saar has made a suggestion to you regarding your Find A Grave memorial for John Lothrop.
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duplicate of prior memorial 25353379
Added by Don Blauvelt on Jul 24, 2016 10:44 PM
Don Blauvelt
John Lothrop-John Lathrop

Yes, there is a duplicate memorial for Capt. John Lothrop, and it is intentional due to the maintainer of the earlier memorial refusing to correct the surname from Lathrop to Lothrop, using the crutch that the surname is spelled Lathrop on the gravestone.

The immigrant Rev. John Lothrop of Barnstable, Mass. is the Lothrop family patriarch. The memorial library at Barnstable is named Lothrop, the main cemetery in Barnstable is named Lothrop Hill, and the 1884 genealogy of the family is called the "Lo-Lathrop" family, not the "La-Lothrop" family.

Rev. John Lothrop was twice married and had six sons. His 2nd son Samuel, by the Rev.'s 1st wife, relocated in 1648 to New London, Connecticut and eventually to Norwich, Conn. Late in life Samuel's great great grandson, Dr. David Lothrop (Thomas, Samuel, Samuel Rev. John), became convinced the original spelling of the family name was Lathrop, and convinced everyone else in the Samuel Lothrop branch to adopt the spelling Lathrop. Prior to this conversion, Dr. David's, as well as all of the then living and previous generations of the Norwich family, are recorded by the surname of Lothrop in vital records, church records, deeds, probate records, etc. However, by 1800 the Samuel Lothrop line began adopting the surname of Lathrop. Because Samuel got a head start in family creation and there was a preponderance of sons in the resulting generations, those surnamed Lathrop now represent the largest number of the descendants of Rev. John Lothrop.

On the other hand, the branches of the five other Lothrop sons whose descendants remained for several generations in greater Barnstable, Mass. never changed the family surname to Lathrop. When several of the male Barnstable lines began migrated to Connecticut in the 1700s, their vital records, deeds, church records, probate records, etc. are by the surname of Lothrop. And, those lines resided in Connecticut other than in the immediate vicinity of Norwich.

Regardless of what Connecticut town it pertained to, Louis Barbour in his Connecticut Vital records alphabetized the surname of Lothrop in his headings as "Lathrop, Lothrop." People referring solely to those vital records have renamed the separate "Lothrop" surnamed branches of the family as "Lathrop." This directly impacts the context of which branch the numerous lines of the family came from, as well as the surname of the daughters at marriage.

Expediency has no place in serious genealogy study or in Find-a-grave memorials.

Don Blauvelt
Added by Don Blauvelt on Jul 20, 2016 8:12 AM
Marianne Mangels
GOULDING family: William R.
Looking for clarification help - I thought her name was Nancy per the Loring books b.10 Dec 1809 m.3 Jan 1826 William R. Goulding who d.Washington DC on 11 May 1865. They had 3 children: Caroline b.7 Aug 1843, Alice GOULDING d.1852, William Goulding, Jr. who, allegedly lived in Australia aft 1853???
Thank you.
Marianne Mangels
Added by Marianne Mangels on May 30, 2016 12:17 PM
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