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NOTE: Valid transfer requests put through the proper protocol with relationship identified and fall within the FAQs are processed within the 30 day window. In other words, I am sick and tired of the antics of members who can not take NO for an answer. And, no, I do not delete messages left until they are at least a year old. Leave up everything - the good, the bad and the ugly. |
Having been a beta tester for the new EDIT system, have nothing but praise for this new feature! Can get through updates in minutes what used to take hours. This new edit feature is also proving to be a huge leap in getting the name fields clean up per the naming conventions found in the FAQs (these are not optional or subject to interpretation):
Memorial Naming Conventions:
If a hyphen or an apostrophe is part of the name, use the punctuation.
A period should be used after names where only an initial is known. If the full name is known, use the full name and not the initial.
No other punctuation should be used within any Name Field.
Full capitalization (ALL-CAPS) of names should not be used in any Name Field.
Suffixes and Prefixes do not belong in any Name Field.
First Name - First name of the deceased. Put the entire first name (if known), even if the grave marker is only an initial.
Middle Name - Middle name of deceased. Put the entire middle name (if known), even if the grave marker is only an initial.
Nickname - Nickname of deceased, if known; the nickname is automatically placed in quotes.
Maiden Name - Maiden name of a married individual, if known (otherwise leave blank); the maiden name is automatically italicized and should only be used if the individual was married and took the spouse's surname as their new surname. If the deceased was never married, then the surname should be placed in the "Last Name" field, NOT in the "Maiden Name" field.
Last Name - Last Name as you would find it on the tombstone, if the interred had more than one marriage or other possible spellings please place this information in the bio and use the family links. Do not include honorary or other suffixes in the Last Name field.
Any photos I've added to this site are open for anyone to use, no permission or credit needed.
I strictly adhere to the Find A Grave guidelines regarding transfers. No exceptions. Requests made outside of the guidelines, or do not state relationship, are no longer being acknowledged. Virtual cemeteries are the way to "gather" your ancestors together.
Copy-and-paste census, military and other data is not a "bio". Please don't send these type of bios because they will not be added.
Finally, I will NOT add a link to a burial unknown memorial. This site is named Find a GRAVE for a reason. Not a difficult concept.
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|William Harrison||Naming conventions|
I have seen how picky you are about persons following FAGs naming conventions, hence, in extracting the following from your contributor's home page, "A period should be used after names where only an initial is known. If the full name is known, use the full name and not the initial.", I have submitted edits for a few of your errors so that you can correct them.
|Valerie Mauk||Nicholas Mollish #22907857|
Could you kindly transfer ownership of Nicholas Mollish #22907857 to me? Nicholas is my dad's brother & I would like to have membership of close family members. Thank you ~ Valerie Mauk
|Judy Russell||Larry Dwayne Riegel|
Could you please transfer Larry's memorial # 125254379 to me, Judy Russell # 47413511.
He is family and I would like to update and connect him to his family.
|Old Southern Belle||OOPS!|
TYPO make that second reference to FAQ#166 instead of FAQ#168. Its interesting to though.
|Old Southern Belle||Naming Conventions|
NOT OPTIONAL OR SUBJECT TO INTERPRETATION! you mean like how you are telling contributors to change "Infant Son or Daughter", which is ON THE MARKER, is respectful & sensitive, to "Infant Male or Female" which is your personal preference, disrespectful and very impersonal.
Show US where that is in the "Naming Conventions".
Please show us! What is the FAQS# on that?
Please read FAQ #137
It says to use:
First name: INFANT
Middle name: TWIN SON or DAUGHTER
Last name: DOE(meaning surname of parent, but that is an interpretation)
Also FAQ#168 where it says: "What information should I include from a headstone?
All of the information on the headstone should be typed into the appropriate fields in the memorial form. It is not sufficient to create a memorial with only a name and a headstone photo and expect people to click on the photo to read the information that should be readily available in a name search, such as birth and death years. Of course, if the headstone only has a name, then you cannot add information you do not have. However, if the information is on the stone, it should be entered into the form."
Are we to understand that you want us to enter the names YOUR WAY instead of what Findagrave says? So you want us to change the memorials to "Infant male or female". Even thou the NAMING CONVENTIONS specify SON OR DAUGHTER. And to put "UNKNOWN" instead of "Mr." in the 1st name field, when it is the only name on the marker. Which would make the memorial unsearchable.
WE DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER WHEN YOU ARE WRONG! You personally have 2971 infant memorials that over half are outside the "FINDAGRAVE NAMING CONVENTIONS". Especially the ones where you name them "Infant A or B" where the A and B in the middle name field appears to be the 1st Initial of the infants name when the memorial is viewed. See #124477433 & #124477432
Maybe when you start following the GUIDELINES we will follow your personal advice.
When is the last time YOU READ THE FAQS?
They have changed since Ancestry.com came on board. It's not done YOUR WAY anymore, actually it never has been! That's way you are having such a time of it. To quote you from your profile: "I am sick and tired of the antics of members who can not take NO for an answer." Yeh - I made a copy of that too. Your profile seems to change daily these days.
|Sue Lee Johnson||Evans and Boddie|
I received your edit to make "MALE" the first name on these unreadable gravestones. But if you don't know 100% that these are indeed "male's" who are buried here, if it's all the same with you I prefer to put "Unknown Evans" and "Unknown Boddie". Using the known dates I have tried to find these people on ancestry.com, but I can't find them with any certainty.
Hello, I was hoping you could transfer the memorial # 71547350, Natala Dennis, is my grandmothers sister. Id love to be able to post a pic and link her to my family. Thank you so much.
|Kathleen Ferguson* Matthews||Transfer|
Thanks for the transfer of my brother, James Ferguson.
|Old Southern Belle||How I Know the "FACTS"|
I dare you to leave this response here and see how many other contributors agree with me. You have promptly deleted every other message that I or anyone leaves that is the least bit critisizing of your abuse of this website. WOA! I was going to copy and paste the message here that you left on my profile page, but guess what, it has disappeared from my messages, how did you do that???. Please tell us, because I am sure there are other contributors that wish they could take back messages they left. But wait! you are just going to deny you did it and blame it on a system glitch, like you always do. But this time I beat you! I saved a copy of it to my computer.
GerbLady Please enlighten me
Where you are getting so many "facts" about my handling of transfers? Am at a loss how you seem to know whom I do and do not transfer.
This is just one example of the posts you have left on a number of members pages:
"You have to use the EDITS tab on the memorial to ask for the transfer of your fathers memorial from GerbLady. She ignores requests from her profile page. She is good at telling other contributors how to follow "findagrave guidelines" but does not follow them herself. If she refuses to transfer him to you after using the proper guidelines then make your request to Edits@findagrave.com . Tell them he is your father and you have corrections and addition you want to make and she will not tranfer him to you. She does not transfer ANY memorial she created that was a military burial."
Request you don't assume or otherwise broadcast unsubstantiated accusations how I handle transfers. And for the record, have made plenty of in-guideline transfers from national cemeteries. Those are actually the bulk of the transfers made.
Added by GerbLady on Jul 05, 2014 8:11 AM
See the time stamp - I started composing this message at 1:25 pm same day and you still have not transferred that contributors father to him! But you took the time to copy "part" of my message from his page and paste it in your message to me. YOU NEED TO GET YOUR PRIORITIES IN ORDER! Transfer of requests come FIRST!!!
Those who would like to read the rest of my message it is at Alec Stewart's messages.
I HAVE THE FACTS - I have not "assume or otherwise broadcast unsubstantiated accusations" about anything you have done. I can verify every statement. You confirm my statements with your OWN profile statement - quote: "I strictly adhere to the Find A Grave guidelines regarding transfers. No exceptions. Requests made outside of the guidelines, or do not state relationship, are no longer being acknowledged. Virtual cemeteries are the way to "gather" your ancestors together."
You did it to me several times when I was new here, to the point where I stopped asking for anything from you. You did it to many others of my fellow contributors and now you are doing it again. I suppose you don't remember, 3 years ago, ORDERING me to remove the hyphen from my mothers memorial or YOU would have it removed for me. I bowed done to you and removed it because I thought you were a member of the administration. When you kept "picking on me" I checked you out. YOU ARE NOT, THEN OR NOW PART OF ADMIN. Your name is not in the list of six administrative people that started Find A Grave. And you certainly do not control Ancestry.com. You have no more power here than any other contributor. I know of several contributors that have become inactive and one that deleted her own account of over 3,000 memorials because of YOUR bullying. I almost did that myself. But didn't want to encourage your "bullying" behavier. You spend more time when people ask twice telling them "you have 30 days to respond to their request" than it would take for you to DO the request. I have not stated anything that I am not personally aware of and back up with copies of your statements.
You are spending so much time doing the ANNOYING "criticizing" and "correcting" of other contributors memorials that you don't have time to respond to any requests made to you. YOU DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY to "order" corrections OR you would add that proof to your profile. You are filling up other contributors EDITs with individual requests to "Add a period to the initals", "Do not put Mr. in the 1st name field" even if the only 1st name on the marker is MR. and the best of all "change Infant son or daughter to Infant male or female". That is just plain Stu .... WRONG!
If you noticed, All of the messages I left about your "procedures" were left to newbies or contributors with less than 300 memorials, of which are their own family. I have not found one response to a newbee where you offered HELP on how to get a process completed, other than telling them to "READ THE FAQ'S" then instead of following up with the request you ignored them. Most the time you delete the request from your messages.
No contributor should have to make "8" request to you to tranfer their SISTER'S memorial. No contributor should have to say "I am begging you" after 4 requests and 4 months to get the transfer of her grandparents. I have also made copies of all the request from your profile page that you are ignoring, in case you decide to delete them, like you usually do. I have also informed other contributors to make copies of their requests so if you do "delete" they can prove they sent you the request. NO MORE DENYING THAT YOU RECEIVED A REQUEST!
I HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG when I inform other contributors how to get around you ignoring their requests.
|cindy hartley||Robert Eason|
Thank you so much
Cindy Eason Hartley
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