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Kathryn Wagner
re: Joseph Edgell
Sorry about that AGAIN ... as I cannot type on this laptop without touching something I do not want to touch.

So, I have copied of ALL of my apologies to you. I have them all and can re-send them to you, if you would like. I can prove to the admins at Find A Grave that I did not do anything wrong KNOWINGLY. I simply made a mistake ... and from the chastising that I gotten from you - a horrible one at that. And, I RESENT your implying and flat out saying that I STOLE ANYTHING, and I DID NOT knowingly steal anything! If you say that you posted the picture to Find A Grave for "all of the family" and it is a very public web site, then why are you so offended and upset that another family member would post it to another public site that deals with the same sort of information that Find A Grave does? And, WHAT do you think that ANYONE copying that picture from Family Search would do with that picture? I'm sure that they would put it in their genealogy information and records, right? I would imagine so and cannot imagine how someone looking on Family Search for records of their dead relatives would abuse that picture. And I cannot imagine that it would be less "out there" on Find A Grave, than it would be on Family Search Tree. Correct me, if I am wrong. To me, you have "made a mountain out of a mole hill", and could have POLITELY informed me that it was YOUR PICTURE, and that you did not want me copying it. Instead, you have reprimanded me publicly - like a child, which I am not - for something that I did not do. I made a mistake, and surely you have made one yourself somewhere in life, I'm sure, so I would think that you could understand. I CLEARLY told you what happened and why and that a mistake had been made ... and still you seem to delight in making me out to be a thief and villain ... and I am not either. Once again ... I AM SINCERELY SORRY ... and trust me, it will NEVER happen again. I am sorry that I confused you with that other distant cousin in the Edgell family, because you are surely not him. He is nice and kind ... and seems to go out of his way to try to help all of us Edgell descendants and glady shares any info or pictures that he has with ANY AND ALL OF US.
Added by Kathryn Wagner on Apr 13, 2015 6:30 PM
Kathryn Wagner
re: sorry once again sent by error
I have copies of my request to you ASKING could I copy the picture. I have copies of my messages to you on your board stating that I had made a mistake. WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT?
Added by Kathryn Wagner on Apr 13, 2015 6:15 PM
Kathryn Wagner
re: sorry once again sent by error
I have copies of my request to you ASKING could I copy the picture. I have copies of my messages to you on your board stating that I had made a mistake. WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT?
Added by Kathryn Wagner on Apr 13, 2015 6:15 PM
Kathryn Wagner
RE: Joseph Edgell
Did I NOT ASK YOU COULD I HAVE THE PICTURE? Now, if you had said "yes", would it not have been my right to post to another web site that deals with genealogy and lost loved ones like Find A Grave? I TOLD YOU that I misunderstood that it was someone else's picture, as I had been communicating with him about family pictures, and I THOUGHT that he had said it was his, and I WAS WRONG. I thought that EAC was also him, as lots of people have different profiles on Find A Grave with different email addresses used. AND, since he had posted a picture of Richard Edgell to the Family Search web site, which says "all pictures posted here are public, so if you do not want it shared, then do not post it", I thought it was okay to repost the picture to Family Search tree. I DID NOT REALIZE THAT I DIDN'T HAVE PERMISION, DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?
Added by Kathryn Wagner on Apr 13, 2015 6:14 PM
Kathryn Wagner
re: Joseph Edgell photo
Sorry about that ... I sent that without finishing my note.

Once again ... I WAS WRONG, and I am terribly sorry!

The picture IS DOWN ... and from the rest of the Edgell clan ... thank you so much for being so kind and generous with your pictures of OUR FAMILY! I'm sure that Joseph Edgell and the rest of the Edgell clan is very proud of your attitude and contempt. YOU can post a picture to a majorly PUBLIC SITE ... but no one else in the family has the right to do that, right? As I said, if you did not want the picture to be public, then you should not have posted it to Find A Grave. I'm sure that along the way, another Edgell relative might copy the picture without your permission and without your knowing it. If I had not POLITELY ASKED, you would never had known that I copied it. I tried to do the right thing, thinking that all of us descendants had one goal in mind ... sharing the family history and treasures ... but I guess that in your case, that is not true! Again - SORRY! God bless ... and have a great day!
Added by Kathryn Wagner on Apr 13, 2015 5:23 PM
Kathryn Wagner
RE: Joseph Edgell
Joseph Edgell
You can try to take it down, but as a distant cousin says, "Once they have it, it is forever theirs and there".
Added by EAC on Apr 13, 2015 3:47 PM

Didn't you post it to the web in the first place by putting it on Find A Grave? I apologized and EXPLAINED the situation to you, and I thought that it had been given to you by a distant cousin, and I thought that he told me that it was "his picture", but I think that he meant that he had the picture, when I sent him the link to YOUR POSTING of the picture. It was a mistake, and I have apologized, and trust me, the picture is DOWN! I doubt that there have been countless people, who over the past week, have rushed to Joseph Edgell's page and copied that picture. For the LIFE of me, I do not understand why you would not want ANY of the Edgell family to be able to get a copy of that picture, but I will respect your wishes, nonetheless. You had NO PROBLEM scanning and sharing the picture with another Edgell cousin, but you do have a problem with some relative in the future happening upon the family tree at Family Search and being able to get a copy of that picture of Joseph Edgell there. I just don't get it. The old pictures that we have of our ancestors are treasures to us, and we will gladly share them with anyone that chooses to have them. WE DID NOT TAKE THE PICTURES OURSELVES, SO WE DO NOT OWN THEM ... like you did not take the picture of Joseph yourself ... but happened to have been given them by "things passed down from other generations", and they happen to be in your possession. I cannot imagine that great-great Uncle Joseph Edgell would want you to have a copy of his picture and not want for all of his descended family to have a copy, if they so chose. But - the picture is in your possession, so it is DOWN ... and rest assured that it will be deleted from my computer and personal library of family photos. If you were so concerned about Joseph's picture being "out there" and "exploited" on the web, then perhaps you should not have posted his picture to a massively public web site like Find a Grave ... in the first place. Yes - Find A Grave has rules, but A LOT of people do not follow those rules, which I am sure that you know. I TRIED to follow the rules and ask ... and then took the picture thinking that you had gotten the picture from another Edgell cousin, who had GIVEN ME PERMISSION TO TAKE IT.
Added by Kathryn Wagner on Apr 13, 2015 5:17 PM
Kathryn Wagner
re: Joseph Edgell
I see that my message about Joseph Egell was a bit confusing. Mary Ellen Edgell (his sister) was my husband's great grandmother. I misworded the note by saying "great grandfather" or whatever I said. Forgive my error. I am so sorry and do not want to offend anyone. I contacted the cousin that I thought had the original picture, and I was mistaken. He says that you had the picture originally, and that you scanned it and sent it to him. I have posted several pictures on Family Search (Tree) website of the Edmans - Mary Ellen Edgell Edman and her family, and I don't have any problem with sharing the pictures that we have of the Edmans with anyone else in the distant family. There seem to be so few photos floating around of the entire "clan" that I wanted to make sure and share the ones that we do have with anyone that might want them. But, if you feel differently and do not want that picture of Joseph shared with "the world", then please let me know. I will take it off of Family Search. I TOTALLLY understand Find A Grave's policy about not taking pictures without permission, thus, I asked for permission. Then, in the interim, I started communicating with my husband's distant cousin, and I thought that he had said that it was his picture, so I assumed that the profile on the memorial was also his profile, as some folks have several profiles. So, I took the picture and posted it, as he also has a picture of Richard Edgell posted on Family Search, so I didn't think that it was a big deal to post Joseph's as well. Find A Grave says "only post pictures that YOU take", and obviously none of us folks that are alive have taken the pictures of our 100 plus year old ancestors. I think that Find A Grave is okay with posting pictures that you didn't take, as long as you have permission, or if the picture is so old, it would be impossible to find the actual photographer and ask for permission. They are our ancestors, after all, so I'm sure that Find A Grave is fine with us posting the pictures that have been passed down to us. After I heard back from Garland (the cousin I thought had posted the picture in the first place) trying to find out if HE is the one that had the original picture, I knew that I had make a mistake. He said that he had been in touch with you, and that your husband is a relative in that Edgell clan as well, and that the picture was your family's, and that you had scanned it and sent it to him. Forgive my error, and PLEASE let me know, if I should take the picture down at Family Search or not. Take care, and God bless. I am sorry that this note is so long, but I wanted to explain myself as best I could. Kathryn
Added by Kathryn Wagner on Apr 12, 2015 8:39 AM
Kathryn Wagner
RE: Joseph Edgell
No, Family Search does not have a policy like that. When you upload pictures, it clearly states that all the pictures that you upload are PUBLIC photos, and if you don't want them shared with the public, then don't upload them. PLUS, I have been in contact with a family member of Mary Ellen Edgell (my husband's great grandfather), I'm pretty sure that he told me that HE had been responsible for having that photo on Joseph's memorial. Do you have the copy of the original picture? Is it your picture? If I am mistaken, I will gladly remove the picture from Family Search, so please let me know. I thought that the WHOLE idea of genealogy was to find relatives and share whatever info that we could. I thought that any relatives in the future might like a photo of Joseph. I didn't realize that I was doing anything wrong, as I thought that I had permission from whoever had the picture in the first place ... and since Family Search clearly says that the pictures are public. He is obviously a relative of all of us ... and it would be good to share whatever pictures and info that we have - wouldn't it? I'm sure that had we met you personally and told you that Josepho Edgell was my husband's great grandmother, you would have gladly let us make a copy of Joseph's photo. Right? Please let me know if you do have the original copy of the picture, and if it is your personal picture, and if you do not want my family to have a copy of the picture, I will remove the picture from Family Search and from my personal files. Thank you and sorry for the heartache I have obviously caused you.
Added by Kathryn Wagner on Apr 11, 2015 10:50 AM
Floyd Strader
Millard Long


Thank you for the heads up --

The only thing I see is do not forget to put his children on his memorial.

Floyd H. Strader
Boone Co., Mo. Cemetery Man


Added by Floyd Strader on Feb 10, 2015 3:33 PM
Pioneersearcher
RE: # 14986646 Claude A Emrick
Do you know who Frances later married and/or where she might have moved on and/or married?

Thanks,
Added by Pioneersearcher on Oct 25, 2014 11:37 AM
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