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Carolyn Gray (#47062093)
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Bio Photo I have been our family's genealogist/historian for over 40 years, and many of these folks I've added to "findagrave" are my family and friends.

Howard Street Cemetery in Northboro, MA is the location of our main family lots, so I have spent many hours there. While there I try to add any grave photos and names of those that appear to be missing from the "findagrave" site. If any of your family are in Howard Street I will gladly turn over management if you wish.

I love to research original settlers for the Tucson, AZ area. Most of the original graves are long gone, including any identifying markers. But the city managed to relocate remains to several different cemeteries in this area, and the stories of many of these pioneers live on. It is my pleasure to merge the stories of the persons with their final resting places.

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RE: Hugh Lusignan
Yes, you did. However, the eminent Peter Stewart (Henry Project, et al.) thinks that Hugues VIIIa, having been buried before the abbey was built, was buried "in the church of Notre-Dame de Lusignan (aka Notre-Dame-et-Saint-Junien) that was founded by Hugues IV in 1025." Latitude, Longitude: 46.436100, 0.123149.

The evidence for the existence of this Hugues is elucidated in one of Peter's posts to GEN-MED on 20 Sep 2004:

"He [Hugh VIIIIa] was entombed on 15 March 1169, so both dates must be wrong for his actual death unless he was a victim of the ghastly burying alive that was feared by morbid Victorians.

As to the existence of this Hugo de Lusignan between 'VIII' and 'IX', I'm not sure that other plausible solutions can be advanced as Adrian
said had been remarked here before.

The usually accepted interpretation of the evidence was given by Charles Farcinet, not by Sidney Painter.

This is based on several charters, mainly from 'Cartulaire de l'abbaye des Chatelliers' edited by L Duval (Niort, 1872) and one from
'Cartulaire de l'Absie', Archives historiques de Poitou 25. I haven't seen any of these documents, and the following is summarised from Farcinet's 'Hugues IX de Lusignan et les comtes de la Marche', extract from 'Revue du Bas-Poitou' (Vannes, 1896):

In 1171 Hugo VIII made gifts to Chatelliers abbey while confirming earlier gifts of his father Hugo (VII) and his mother Saracena; in 1218 another Hugo (IX), on the point of departing forJerusalem, confirmed the gifts that his grandfather (avi mei) had made (i.e. Hugo VIII in
1171); and in 1248 another Hugo (X) reconfirmed these gifts of his great-grandfather ("Hugonis de Lezigniaco proavi mei") and his father ("Hugonis Bruni...patris mei").

The charter of Absie was given by the intervening Hugo's younger brother Geoffroy I known as Big-tooth, seigneur of Moncontour: "ego Gaufridus de
Lizigniaco pro salute anime mee fratrisque mei Hugonis...Hoc factum est apud Lizigniacum primo die post sepulturam Hugonis fratris mei laudante
et concedente Burgondia matris mea. Anno Domini MCLXVIIII, XVII kal. april." (I Geoffroy de Lusignan for the benefit of my soul and of my
brother Hugo...transacted at Lusignan on the day following the burial of my brother Hugo with the approval and concession of my mother Burgundia
[the wife of Hugo VIII]. AD 1169, 16 March).

Farcinet's article as printed in 'Revue du Bas-Poitou' confused the issue with an odd blunder or misprint, stating that this Hugo had died on 16 April 1169, but it's quite clear from the above that even in the worst of misadventures this was not the case, since he had been buried a month and a day beforehand and he would surely have run out of air & given up clawing at his coffin lid well within that lapse of time."

Painter wrote articles about the Lusignans in Speculum - Vol 30 1955 p375+, Vol 31 p243+, & Vol 32 p27+. Speculum is available at You can read the article for free if you register (for free).

But as Peter says, evidence was first presented by Charles Farcinet not Painter.
Added by Anonymous on Jul 24, 2014 6:11 PM
RE: Hugh Lusignan
So sorry, I thought I had given you the link. Here it is:

It certainly is not easy to find cemeteries in Find A Grave, is it?
Added by Anonymous on Jul 24, 2014 4:02 PM
You wrote: "From a grateful descendant through your son John Loomis - Carolyn Gray Added: Mar. 11, 2010"
For certain, Findagrave can be confusing but for the greater part, it has cleared up many of my family mysteries concerning those who moved away & thought died young or lost in a blizzard.
Agnes didn't show up in your cemetery search because her burial is "unknown". Records do indicate John might not be buried in a Catholic churchyard.
You say Joseph had a brother named John, which you descend from. I'd love to see your line, please. Agnes is my mother's 9th great-grandmother and I welcome you as a cousin. Have you communicated with the official Loomis record keeper and what did you learn ?
I hope you can enlighten me more about our wonderful, huge & growing family. Thanks
Oh, I wish you'd found my memorial before you created yours, maybe tried a few more searches because of the descendants who have posted beautiful memorials for both sites. I'd hate to delete even one of their posts. Maybe Findagrave can merge the flowers & notes (someday)
Added by Carol STEVENS on Jun 27, 2014 7:36 AM
Joseph Gray
Thank you so much for transferring the memorial for Joseph Gray to us. We'll take care of him for you.
John and Lois Sherman
Added by Sherman-Thomas on Jun 13, 2014 8:22 AM
Gray Genealogy
Have you read Gray Genealogy

Added by Victoria on Jun 10, 2014 4:56 PM
Linda zimmerman
Eng, Whites
I know this is WAY out of the guidelines for transferring memorials, but I have to ask, are the four Whites that you created Memorials for in Eng, Somerset Co., South Petherton, St Peter and Paul, in your family line?

Robert Jr. Robert II, Joan West White, and Alice Rich White. [130179102]

If they are! Hi cousin.. LOL
I also have edits for you if they are.

I'm asking because if there not, I would like to ask to take over there management. I know there no requirement to do so. They are in my direct line from my grandmother Lousania White, but way way back.

Thank You for posting them.
Added by Linda zimmerman on May 22, 2014 10:10 AM
Puffer xfer
Thanks for the transfer of my ancestor

Added by NCDave on Mar 28, 2014 9:17 AM
Linda Morgan Durbin
Photo Request FAG 8359055 Myra Jean NEAL
First of all, let me just say Thank You for what you do for researchers. I certainly appreciate all you do. I have withdrawn my photo request and will see what I can do to find grave location. I apologize for you trouble and thank you so very much for your efforts.
Added by Linda Morgan Durbin on Mar 27, 2014 8:11 PM
Lynne Sherer Sitkiewicz
RE: Charles Gray 45073121
I forgot to mention Lena was originally buried in a mausoleum and it caved in and they put all the people in it, into a common grave, if they couldn't contact family members. I've got the actual full obituary if you want it & some other documents, just e-mail me at Oh, and thank you for the use of the photo's. Charles was sure an elegant looking man.
Added by Lynne Sherer Sitkiewicz on Feb 20, 2014 3:35 PM
Lynne Sherer Sitkiewicz
RE: Charles Gray 45073121
Carolyn, I have quite a bit of information on Lena if you are interested on Here is the her Find A Grave memorial 42263089
Added by Lynne Sherer Sitkiewicz on Feb 20, 2014 3:29 PM
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