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|Jenifer||RE: Collier Family|
Wilda, James & Nancy Collier both died and were buried in Platte Co, Missouri, near Weston. They were in the Collier Cemetery until they were exhumed and moved to Indiana in 1972. The 2 girls are Stewart's children living in Missouri. I can check with the county seat of Platte City to find out who requested and paid for the exhumation if you would like the information. Jenifer Jones
Added by Jenifer on Mar 07, 2014 11:42 PM
Wilda, I remember you mentioned working on the Collier family line. Would you tell me which of the Colliers are your ancestors? I am descended from Alexander Collier through his son James who is my 5-great grandfather. Are we possible distant relatives? It would be a great help in my genealogy if you would be so kind. Thank you, Jenifer Jones
Added by Jenifer on Mar 06, 2014 10:23 PM
|Cheryl||Euphama Collier Hockensmith|
Thanks for the additional info. It does all fit!
I would have been very glad to make the corrections and links to Euphama's memorial, but I don't have control of it. You'll have to send a request to Anita, the memorial manager. I would have loved to manage all the memorials of the people there, as I have spent countless hours transcribing the stones and researching the history and family connections, but Anita was not willing to turn over any but my McAfees.
I find the Garrard/Lincoln Co., KY, connection interesting. My great-great grandfather Elijah McAfee, his brothers Andrew and George, and sister Elvira and her husband Marcus Renfro all came to the Ray/Clay Co., MO, area from Garrard/Lincoln sometime in the 1830's, leaving their father, John, and other family members behind. Andrew married Elizabeth "Betsy" Hockensmith, daughter of William and Nancy, May 31, 1844 in Ray Co. They're also buried at O'Dell Cemetery, along with several of their children.
Added by Cheryl on Feb 20, 2014 7:04 AM
I should point out that Mrs. Cox had this for Nancy Hockensmith's stone:
Mrs. Nancy Hockensmith, born 1804,
10 months, 18 days, died 1842,
11 months, 12 days, 38 years, 24 days.
It's amazingly difficult to tell some numbers apart after years of wear. 6's and 8's and 5's can seem very much alike, as well as other numbers. The stones were certainly in better shape when Mrs. Cox transcribed them, but, when we differed, I had no way of knowing if she herself made a mistake in transcribing them, or when she wrote it up for the newspaper, or if the typesetter erred. I put what I thought it to be, and checked and re-checked when it differed from her transcription. In the end I decided I must put what I honestly discerned the number to be, and if I got it wrong, I had tried my best. In my book I also included my transcription of Mrs. Cox's newspaper column so that people could see both.
How do these dates match up with your records?
Added by Cheryl on Feb 19, 2014 7:24 PM
WONDERFUL to receive your message! After all these years, information about Euphama!
I have never been able to find out anything about Euphama other than that she is buried next to Nancy, their headstones match, and the dates that Mrs. Cox recorded in 1937 when she did her survey of the cemetery for the newspaper in Richmond, MO. I copied the articles from a microfilmed copy of the actual newspaper. Euphama was listed line for line like this:
Euphama Hockensmith, born 1806.
1 month, 18 days, died 1847, 3 months,
28 days, 39 years, 2 months, 10 days.
When I began my transcription in the 1990's, the dates on Euphama's stone were already unreadable. The stone was sheeting off in layers and the carving nearly all destroyed. Nancy's stone was also in bad shape, although still readable, and they both were toppled over. They both are now pretty much completely unreadable.
This is my original transcription of Nancy's stone:
DEPA 1842 11 M 12 D
BORN 1804 10 M 24 D
Too hard to show the spacing exactly, but that's it line for line. Mrs. Cox's transcription of it is in the same style as Euphama's, so she did not transcribe exactly. I believe Euphama's stone was probably carved in the same way Nancy's was.
I don't know what happened with Euphama's Findagrave memorial. The original creator of most of the memorials at O'Dell made many mistakes, and I went over them one by one and sent corrections to the current manager. I'm sure I've pestered her half to death. Anyway, at one time she had the correct years on Euphama's.
William married again after Euphama, to Miss Jane Park of Madison Co., KY, as told by their son Willis W. Hockensmith in an article in the Richmond, MO newspaper "The Missourian" dated May 8, 1930. It's an interesting article, and tells about his father marrying "Miss Nancy Tucker" and how they and their four children were "on their way to the Platte Purchase settlement" when they stopped in Elkhorn, MO., where William was persuaded to stay by Reuben Riggs. Willis never mentions another marriage in between these two, and it never occurred to me that Euphama could have been another wife.
This is awfully long already, but I've more to share, if you're interested, and questions for you! Probably best sent by email.
- Cheryl McAfee
Added by Cheryl on Feb 19, 2014 7:10 PM
re Sarah Henrietta Collier Cole
Wilda, thank you for your answer. Do you remember which lady owned the family bible? I am also a descended from Jessie James Cole, and would be so glad to get to know new relations. Jenifer Jones
Added by Jenifer on Feb 17, 2014 1:57 PM
re: Sarah Henrietta Cole Would you share the lady's name you corresponded with? She would also be a distant relative, and I would like to know her as well as share genealogical information with her. Thank you for your answer. Jenifer Jones
Added by Jenifer on Feb 16, 2014 11:28 PM
Sarah Cole is my 4 great grandmother. Her middle name is Henrietta, not Henry. All of the family genealogy papers have her name as Sarah Henrietta Collier Cole. Thank you. Jenifer Jones
Added by Jenifer on Feb 12, 2014 10:56 PM
|Denny Roach||Contact Me|
Please contact me at my email address so that we can discuss the Collier line.
|SeekingFamily||John Burton Carter|
Are you related to the Carter family. John is my 2nd Great Grand Unlce and his father, Daniel Weeden Carter is my 3rd Great Grandfather.
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