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Marcialyn (#47391825)
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Bio Photo Although I am not a famous person (that I know of), I have famous people in my family. My brother Bill, was the drummer for the music group the Grateful Dead, and my mother's father was Clark Shaughnessy, the football coach.

!!PS-If I submit additional data to a memorial you manage, and you choose to post/add it, please DO NOT attribute my name-I AM JUST A LOWLY STAGEHAND IN THE WINGS.
"It feels kind of like a sacred calling, honoring all of the lives that came before us."-Kendra Anderson daughter of Gale Marshall (nee Hartley) Anderson, step-sister.
For research in the San Francisco area, I highly recommend the SFGenealogy website, where there are nooks and crannies stuffed with information. The site includes the surrounding counties as well.

~~SF-A genealogist's nightmare
All cemeteries (except Mission Delores) within the city limits were eventually moved elsewhere-mostly to San Mateo County, which now has the distinction of having more dead people than living. This newspaper article marks the beginning of the end of San Francisco's burial grounds:
SACRAMENTO, April 17.—With the bare margin of only two more votes than the number required to carry the group of acts known as the "San Francisco cemetery removal bills" was passed by the senate late this afternoon after a debate lasting several hours. The final roll call showed 23 ayes and 11 noes, with six senators absent or not voting. The purpose of the bills is to provide a legal method for removing the bodies from the cemeteries of pioneer days, and which now are in the midst of the growing city. ... Senator Campbell, Juilliard, Shanahan and Curtin spoke against the bills.
--SF Call, Vol. 113, No. 139, 18 April 1913,p.7

A. J. Gunnison Declares It Is the Work of Rivals in San Mateo County.
The petition now before the Supervisors asking that the cemeteries in this City be practically closed was branded yesterday by A. J. Gunnison, the venerable president of Laurel Hill Cemetery, as an attempt on the part of "designing persons interested in a new burial place in San Mateo County" to hurt an institution belonging by all right to the people of San Francisco in the interest of a private enterprise.
Mr. Gunnison talked as one overcome with contempt and disgust at the proceedings, ...
"We organized under the rural cemetery act of California," he said, "and that gives us the right for all time to have a cemetery. So where can a local Board of Supervisors come in and control us in any way? Every dollar received for land sold to lot owners has been spent on the cemetery — first for the land itself, then for beautifying the grounds. I have been over twenty years president of Laurel Hill Cemetery and never received a cent for my work as an officer. The cemetery is for the benefit Of the people of San Francisco. After thirty or forty years we have paid for all the land and now every dollar received goes to beautifying the grounds. ... " A man named Noble, ... buys a tract of land down somewhere in San Mateo County and opens a cemetery. These people "who own this burial place are not like us— ...
"The City and County of San Francisco sold to the Laurel Hill Cemetery Association this identical property for $28,000, which sum was paid to the City by us. The City deeded the land to the cemetery for all time as a 'rural cemetery' under the State law. ... "Does San Francisco wish that to go down to posterity as the honesty of the men now in office in San Francisco? And for the simple purpose of enabling stock speculators in an outside cemetery to make money? ...
"Does your association propose to defend itself legally?" ... I do not propose to spend money to fight it if the City and County of San Francisco will sanction their Supervisors' act to destroy the very deeds which were given by the City for the benefit of the people, and for which the City was paid an enormous price. We shall not step in and place ourselves in the position to spend individual money to prevent the disgrace to rest upon the City, believing we have done our duty. That means, if the City of San Francisco wishes to ruin the name of the City of San Francisco let the people themselves ruin it. ...
--San Francisco Call, Vol. 79, No. 47, 16 Jan. 1896

Scion of "Little Corporal" by His English Affinity Came to San Francisco as a Jeweler and His Neglected Tomb Occupies Obscure Corner in the Cemetery.
Curator Barron and Other Speakers Tell Members of Outdoor Art League at Monument to Senator Broderick Honored Dead Shall Not Be Molested

In an obscure corner of Laurel Hill cemetery is a neglected grave, unmarked, quite like hundreds of others in the same tract, yet this one holds the body of a son of Napoleon BONAPARTE, conqueror of Europe. Prof. George Barron, curator of the museum in Golden Gate park, surprised several hundred members of the Outdoor Art league ...
Since Napoleon's death historians of French government have acknowledged the birth of this son of their former leader and have pointed out that he was born soon after Napoleon was sent to St. Helena, and that he died in San Francisco and was buried in Laurel Hill. ..
--San Francisco Call, Volume 113, Number 100, 10 March 1913
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--------Family Summary-----------
We were a part of the "Germans to America" wave although a bit late-1886 was the immigration year of my great grandfather, Dr. Henrich Josef Kreutzmann from Frankfurt am Main, Germany to San Francisco via the 'Gellert'. As I add names to the tree, I've noticed frequent Irish-German connections. My best guess why is that both like their ale and naturally become drinking buddies :).
My Family Tree can be found at Rootsweb World Connect Project-
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James Seidelman
LOL - Greatful Dead...
When I was stationed in Norfolk, I wore my dress whites to the Greatful Dead concert. I was the only one there in uniform. That was before you could wear civies in public. It was a great concert. My concert before that was when I was in college when I saw the Beatles at Wrigley Park in Chicago - they were on 2nd base and I was on 3rd base. But later, I worked for Michael Jackson for a year and a half on "Moonwalker"... He took the editing crew to his "Bad" concert - we all loved it.
Added by James Seidelman on Sep 07, 2014 2:52 AM
RE: Obits and memorials
I am glad to work with you. I thank you for adding the memorial of her. I have tried to find out how she died but it seems that some states did not reveal that. I have been working with some people from Mass and they tell everything about the person. Yes, I have run into some "different" people on here. I had one guy who was awful and talked to me like I was a dog. I told him, so much for trying to be nice and that I would never bother him again.
Added by Mary(Coggin)Russell on Aug 19, 2014 7:50 AM
The Greatful Dead
Hi, This has nothing to do with Find A Grave but, where I worked in San Rafael, the Dead had there practice studio next door. My children grew up calling them uncle Mike and Unckie Jerry. When I would bring the kids to work on the weekends the guys would come over and get the kids and let them hang around with them while they practiced. I just had to share this story just in case you never heard about it. Thank you for taking me down memory road. Blessings Jo
Added by Josway on Jun 22, 2014 7:14 PM
RE: #10411711 James Albert Petray bio
Thank you so much for sending the link to James Petray's coroner inquisition. The information is fantastic. I have incorporated much of the detail into his bio and added a link to the original document. I really appreciate your help!
Added by KBStewart on Jun 16, 2014 11:21 AM
Krista AQ Thompson
Have you seen this?
It's really wonderful, I think you might be interested:
Added by Krista AQ Thompson on May 29, 2014 7:39 AM
Krista AQ Thompson
RE: Emma Garrison Jones edit
Not offended at all! Sadly, I have almost no memory of suggesting the edit, which means I was just running down the rows in a flurry of activity. I do have this, which shows her brother as J.R. Harrison:

Jones, Emma Garrison d. 2 Feb 1898 R92/70

On Wednesday, February 2, 1898 at the residence of her brother, J.R. Garrison, 1427 R street northwest after a very brief illness, Mrs. Emma Garrison Jones of Martinsburg co., Va. Funeral from her brother's residence, 1427 R street northwest, Friday, February 4 at 2:30 o'clock p.m. Interment private.

Let me dig around, see where I found that. And no worries, you're absolutely right to ask!

Added by Krista AQ Thompson on May 29, 2014 6:01 AM
Continuing thanks for all your additional info!!
Added by AlbqFirefly on Mar 31, 2014 7:28 PM
RE: Clara Paulina Bernthal Kreutzmann
I am indeed a relation (a 2nd cousin 2x removed) to her. I presume you are a relation as well? I see you've done some work on her family. I will try to get in touch with you privately to share more information.
Added by mgallstern on Mar 27, 2014 11:12 AM
RE: Request for source of death date
I have corrected the date of death. That would have just been a typo. He is on my "Write a famous bio and make famous list". Thank you.

Added by K on Mar 17, 2014 4:51 PM
Dottie Gingerelli
RE: Father Sebastiani, S.J. photo
Hi Marcialyn,
You are very welcome. Sorry it took so long, as you know it's been raining, but the big hold up was the overcast; because Father's name on the marker wasn't filled in dark (like the name below it), I needed a little more sun to be able to get it to show up decently on the picture!
Thanks for the 'SFGenealogy' website tip! I was born in SF, lived on the corner of Greenwich & Broderick. My mom worked as the hostess at Tarantino's in the 40's when it was 'top hat'. Later, growing up, she'd regale us with inside stories of the Hollywood famous who stepped out of limos to dine there in it's heyday. But things have changed through the years. I loved to hear her tell stories about the people I saw from the old movies, but my kids and grandkids don't care about 'stars' they don't know, they just like to stop for lunch, when we're in the city, where their beloved Yiayia once worked-which is even better. Dottie
Added by Dottie Gingerelli on Mar 06, 2014 11:51 AM
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