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worldwidebanbury (#47529302)
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Robert Martin
I have all the correct information you sent regarding Find-a-grave for Richard and Mary (Cornish) Banbury on our ancestery site. I have some discrepancies on the find-a-grave site. I shall try and make those corrections as soon as I get a chance.
I find all the names but two.

Added by Robert Martin on Jan 03, 2013 2:08 PM

John Gartner
In June Smokey posted the following entry from the 1860 US census:

Thos Banberry, 43 <1816>, Male, England, value of real estate $8000, Carpenter
Jane, 44, Female, NY
Richard Hoxie, 16,M,NY [Nephew?]
Thos Banberry, 11, M, <1848> England [Nephew, son of Samuel J. Banbury, born 1849]
Elicta Hoxue, 72, F, [ca 1788] Vermont [Mother of Jane]
Thos Banberry, 75 <1784>, M, England [Father of Thomas]
Virginia Hastsocks (?), 16, F, Virginia
John Gay, 24, M, England, Carpenter
Iowa City, Johnson, Iowa. M653, 1438 rolls, pg 386. Taken 20 July 1860.

I hope I can flesh this out a bit. The "John Gay" listed above was my great-great grandfather. He was born in Feock, Cornwall in 1835 and immigrated to the US with his parents in 1848. In his 1910 application for a military pension, Gay wrote the following: "I made my home with Parents in Oakland Township, Louisa County, Iowa until 1854, then in Iowa City, Iowa until 1860, working for the firm of Banbury and Redhead and living with them" (Letter from John Gay to the Hon. J. L. Davenport, Pension Commissioner, dated March 2, 1910, on the occasion of Gay's application for a military pension. Found in the Pension Files of John Gay, National Archives, Washington, DC). I have been unable to identify Mr. Redhead or find any information on the firm of Banbury and Redhead. I have been unable to ascertain whether the Banburys and the Gays knew each other in Cornwall.

Richard Hoxie, as you have surmised, was the nephew of Thomas and Jane (Hoxie) Banbury. He was from New York City but moved to Iowa City to live with his aunt and uncle, most likely after his father Joseph died in 1858. Hoxie and Gay became good friends during this time and remained so for the rest of their lives; I have a picture of them as older men, possibly taken in Washington, DC in 1909 when Gay was in that city for a Civil War reunion. Hoxie became a brigadier general and for many years was with the Army Corps of Engineers in Washington, DC. He married Vinnie Ream, sculptress of a statue of Abraham Lincoln that is in the U.S. Capitol Building, in a wedding that was attended by President Grant, General Sherman and most of the U.S. Senate. There is an entry for Hoxie on the Find a Grave website (which includes a photo of him as well), but it contains an omission as it mentions only his second wife (in fact the grave in the photo is for his first wife Vinnie Ream as well).

The Historical Society of Washington, DC has the Richard L. and Vinnie Ream Hoxie Papers for the years 1862-1921. I have reviewed them but unfortunately they contain no references to Banbury, Redhead or Gay.

I believe the entry for Jane Hoxie's mother should read "Eliza" Hoxie.

Added by John Gartner on Apr 16, 2012 6:24 PM

RE: Col. Jabez Banbury
Only have a limited amount of space here -- but your record is new to me. Here is part of what I have:

[Research note: Dianne D. Esplin shows birth as 4 March 1829, Launcells, Cornwall, Eng. But has no source. The colonel's AUTOBIOGRAPHY states he was born 4 March 1830.]

Pasadena Post, April : various dates, 1931 Pasadena, Los Angeles, California
Source: Pasadena Public Library Page/Column: April 7, 8 and 9 - Page 1
Life of Col Banbury - Autobiography of Founder of Pasadena CA
Post April 07, 08 and 09, 1931 - Page 1
I, Jabez Banbury, was born in the County of Cornwall, England, March 4, 1830. My father was Thomas Banbury, my Mother, Mary Lysle. Both were born in Cornwall, England. I cannot give the dates of birth. My father died at Iowa City, Iowa, at about 85 years of age. My mother died at Butsbeer, England, at about 50 years of age.
I have but little knowledge of my grandparents as they died before I was 5 years of age. My paternal grandfather was possessed at his death of a considerable landed estate, which, not being entailed, he willed to the youngest of his three sons, my father and his older brother taking offense at what they deemed the unjust treatment, resolved to emigrate to America as soon as they could make arrangements to do so.
The older brother carried out his resolution the following year and settled in Knox County, Ohio, where the most of his numerous descendants still reside.
My father's departure from England was delayed for about five years on account of the illness and death of my mother. In 1841 my father with myself and youngest sister, followed his brother to America, also setting in Knox County, Ohio.
I have no knowledge of my maternal grandparents, at least no personal knowledge of them. However, old family traditions claim a descent from a General Banbury whom history speaks as one of Cesar's officers on his invasion of Briton. But as the name seems to be the only connecting link and Shakespeare says there is nothing in a name, we count that nil.
I have no knowledge of any particularly distinguished career of my ancestors, they being farmers or landlords. I was born on and lived on a farm until about 8 years of age when, for two years I lived with my father and family where I attended my first school in the town of Launceston, England. When between 10 and 11 years of age, I accompanied my father to the United States and lived at Gambler, Knox County, Ohio

Added by Smokey on Jan 15, 2012 11:04 PM

RE: Elizabeth Ruth McClean Banbury
McClean - vs - MacClean

1901 Nova Scotia Census, Mt. Thom, Pictou Co.
McLean, Samuel, male, head, 1-10-1850, born NS, farmer
Lizzie, female, wife, 11-18-1857, born NS
Maggie, female, dau, 11-2-1880, born NS
Lottie, female, dau, 7-4-1882, born NS
Georgia, female, dau, 6-21-1884, born NS
Newman, male, son, 11-8-1886, born NS
John, male, son, 7-6-1888, born NS
Andrew W., male, son, 12-21-1892, born NS
Wesley, male, son, 5-18-1896, born NS
Ruth, female, dau, 1-1-1898, born NS

Robert McLean
1896 Pictou County Nova Scotia, Farmer
McAlpine's Nova Scotia Directory for 1896, Volume/page 1396

California Death Index: Ruth MacLean Banbury [Ruth MacLean] Social Security #: 564212984 Sex: Female Birth Date: 1 Jan 1899 Birthplace: Canada Death Date: 21 May 1983 Death Place: Los Angeles Mother's Maiden Name: Gray Father's Surname: MacLean.

1901 Canada Census
Name: Elizabeth Mclean Birth: 1899 - Ns Residence: 1901 - city, Cape Breton, Nova Scotia.

However When I was doing the initial research [many years ago] Wesley Banbury, Ruth's son, was very adamant about the spelling as MacClean. I've run into this "Mc vs Mac" with other Scottish folks, and don't get into any spelling battles with them.

Hope that helps.


Added by Smokey on Jan 11, 2012 10:11 PM

Robert Martin
I beg to differ with your information. Hannah was born in Knox County, Ohio as was John Charles.
Who is William.
If you want to correct my information please make it a more pleasant attitude.

Added by Robert Martin on Dec 31, 2011 7:17 AM

RE: Thomas Edward Banbury 1849-1902
Thanks for the update. Do you have a "source" for that data? And by any chance do you happen to have a real name - rahter than "worldwide"? We are in Rocklin CA.

Added by Smokey on Dec 16, 2011 11:14 AM

Okya I figured it out - she isn't mine - but I did request the information be updated.

Added by Patty on Jun 24, 2011 1:25 PM

RE: Emeline Bloxom (1897 - ____)
I'm soory - I thought I had the memorial - but I don't find it - were you answering a question I had - or am I missing a memeorial.. ??

Added by Patty on Jun 24, 2011 1:22 PM

RE: Emeline Bloxom (1897 - ____)
Thanks - I have fixed it

Added by Patty on Jun 24, 2011 1:19 PM

Jane Hoxie Banbury
I corrected the link, thanks for the information!

Added by Sue on Jun 12, 2011 10:52 PM

RE: Thomas Banbury Dec. 20, 1788
Unable to un-link, but see correction notes.

Added by Smokey on Jun 12, 2011 11:51 AM

RE: Thomas Banbury Dec. 20, 1788

My files show:

Thomas BANBURY, b 20 Dec 1788, d abt 1873
wife: Mary LYLE, b July 1791, d abt Jan 1836

Thomas M BANBURY, b 25 Aug 1816, Launcells , Cornwall, England
Jane E. HOXIE, b ca 1815, , d 3 Sep 1898
Thomas accompanied his sisters, Mary Susan and Letitia and his uncle, Richard, to America on the Cosmopolite, reaching New York on the 13th May, 1835. Upon arriving in New York, Thomas apparently went directly to Iowa rather than going with Mary Susan to Ohio. The 1850 census of District Nine, Iowa City, shows Thomas Banbury (34), Joiner and H, born England. However by 1856 he had married Jane Hoxie and his father, Thomas and mother in law, Electra were living with them.

1860 US Census
Thos Banberry, 43 <1816>, Male, England, value of real estate $8000, Carpenter
Jane, 44, Female, NY
Richard Hoxie, 16,M,NY [Nephew?]
Thos Banberry, 11, M, <1848> England [Nephew, son of Samuel J. Banbury, born 1849]
Elicta Hoxue, 72, F, [ca 1788] Vermont [Mother of Jane]
Thos Banberry, 75 <1784>, M, England [Father of Thomas]
Virginia Hastsocks (?), 16, F, Virginia
John Gay, 24, M, England, Carpenter
Iowa City, Johnson, Iowa. M653, 1438 rolls, pg 386. Taken 20 July 1860.

1870 US Census
Thomas Banberry, 54 <1815> England, M, W, Carpenter & Joiner, valueof real estate $14,700
Jane, 53 <1816> NY, F, W.
Thomas Banberry, 85, <1784> England, W, M. Retired Butcher [Father of Thomas Jr.]
Hoxie, James, 19, <1851> NY, Broker Clerk, M, W.
Iowa City Ward 4, Johnson, Iowa. Post Office: Iowa City Roll: M593_400 Page: 404 Image: 342 Year: 1870. 1870 United States Federal Census. Taken 25 August 1870.

1. Page: 83
Jan E [Jane] Hoxie Banbury
Cemetery: Oakland,Town: Iowa City
Comment: no dates; F; FM, FH; 30-1
Relative: wif of: TM Banbury Johnson County, Iowa Wpa Grave Registrations
Banbury family plot, Outlot 1, Plot 30; from left to right: Father [TM Banbury, no dates]
Hoxie Banbury family monument: Jane E Hoxie Banbury, d Sep 3, 1898, aged 83 [b ca 1815], wife of TM
JH [no dates]

In the future please use my e-mail address for any questions, provide your name, and sources for your data.
S. Bassett,

Added by Smokey on Jun 09, 2011 3:45 PM

Robert Martin
Pratt Banburys
Thank you for your recent information regarding Betty Grigg.
I am WELL aware of the Banbury background and know the family very well. Our information regarding Richard and Mary Cornish-Banbury is extensive and absolutely correct. WE ARE IN POSESSION OF MANY ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS
I acknowledge that you know the Californians but the Kansas Banbury clan ionformation we have is first HAND. MY WIFE IS A Banburty and Betty's father-Richard Harrison Banbury was her great Uncle and she knew him well.
Thank you again and I do know the history but will make the change in dates as we know little about the California Banbury Clan. Most of them are unresponsive to inquiries.

Added by Robert Martin on Jun 09, 2011 9:14 AM

RE: Samuel Henry Banbury
Good morning cuzin!

Always glad to meet another Banbury link. How about some information about yourself and where you sit in the Banbury family tree.
I'm the great-grandson of John Wesley BANBURY [1861-1925], son of Samuel J. BANBURY [1823-1874].
We live in Rocklin CA and I've been doing research for 30+ years, have a "My Family" Banbury web site and am linked with several other cuzins in the US, Canada and England.
As for your note -- I show the same date as you do in my file, so will have to check the Find-A-Grave listing, which might be very old. However, I do not have a solid source for the wedding date. My e-mail is: let's chat direct! {};<)
Smokey Bassett

Added by Smokey on Jun 09, 2011 8:21 AM


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