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Guyetta Cluck (#47299258)
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S.Tucker
RE: Elizabeth Jane Guthery
A Hiser Reunion? Oh, what fun! By all means, please enjoy that and we'll get back in touch afterwards.

Enjoy visiting with all your relatives!

sharlene

Added by S.Tucker on Aug 27, 2014 2:15 PM

S.Tucker
Elizabeth Jane Guthery
SIXTH:

Do you know who raised your g-grandmother, Elizabeth Jane Guthery, after her father's death in 1867?

I haven't found her in the 1870 U.S. Federal census. She didn't show up in Nancy Jane Trent's household for that year. I think I found her younger sister, Pernina Emeline/Emaline "Emma" in the household of their next older brother, Artis, listed as "Emily P." Did Elizabeth perhaps go to live with Pernina's relatives? (Assuming Pernina was her mother.)

Thanks for any help you can provide to my questions. If desired, feel free to answer using my email address, which is shown on my Find A Grave member information. Would love to hear back from you!

So nice to meet you, cousin!

Sincerely,

Sharlene Tucker

Added by S.Tucker on Aug 27, 2014 5:41 AM

S.Tucker
Young's Daughters: Elizabeth Jane and Pernina Emeline
FIFTH:

HAVE YOU FOUND SOURCES SHOWING PROOF WHO THE MOTHER WAS OF YOUNG'S DAUGHTERS, ELIZABETH JANE AND PERNINA EMELINE?

--If the records of our cousin, Bob Guthery, are correct, (see previous message re: Pernina Emeline Mullenix), Pernina would have been deceased in 1852.

~~~ This would mean Young's daughters, Elizabeth Jane (born in 1854) and Pernina Emeline (born in 1857) were not Pernina's daughters.

~~~This would also mean we are missing a wife in between Pernina and Nancy Jane Trent.

--If Bob's records are incorrect, then perhaps Pernina Emeline Mullenix either died sometime after the birth of daughter, Pernina Emeline Guthery (b: 1857) or after the mysterious baby, James, (b: 1859).

--Since Pernina Emeline Mullenix is not showing in the 1860 U.S. Federal census, I think it is safe to say the latest her death could have occurred would be prior to the date of the 1860 census.

--As Elizabeth Jane (Guthery) Tilley-Ketner was your g-grandmother, does your family have any documents or sources that might show who Elizabeth's mother was?

--This leads me back to my second message asking when Pernina Emeline Mullenix, first wife of Young Guthery, died.

Added by S.Tucker on Aug 27, 2014 12:18 AM

S.Tucker
Young Guthery's 1860 Household (cont.)
FOURTH:

There is a 3-month old baby, James, in the Young Guthery household in the 1860 U.S. Federal Census for Park Township, Scott, Arkansas.

DO YOU KNOW HOW THIS BABY TIES INTO THE FAMILY?

--Is this Young's child?
-- If so, was Pernina the mother? (This would mean Pernina didn't die until late 1859 or sometime later after his birth.)
-- Or, did Young marry the young 18-year-old girl named Sarah shown in the 1860 U.S. Federal Census and have a male child with her?

--Or, was this baby, James, the son of 18-year-old Sarah from an unknown father?

--What happened to Sarah and James, between the 1860 census and Young's 1862 marriage to Nancy Jane Trent, and thereafter?

NOTE:
*This is not the son of Young's wife, Nancy Jane Fisher, whom he married in 1862. Nancy's first husband, John Fisher, didn't die until 1861. John & Nancy were having a family together during this time period. In fact, John died shortly before their last child was born.
*Baby James should not be confused with John Fisher & Nancy Jane Trent's son, James D. Fisher (born 27 Oct 1858; died 10 Aug 1873)

Added by S.Tucker on Aug 26, 2014 11:05 PM

S.Tucker
Young Guthery's 1860 Household
THIRD: (Sorry . . . this made much more sense in my original email, as it had bullets and indentations for better clarification.)

In the 1860 U.S. Federal Census, Young Guthery is shown to have moved to Park Township, Scott County, Arkansas. Since the census did not state relationships that year, we are unclear who might be the 18-year-old female, Sarah, living in his household (listed in the census directly under Young's name -- which is the spot the wife is usually listed in subsequent years' census reports).

Do you know:
--Is she a 2nd wife Young married in-between Pernina Emeline Mullenix and Nancy Jane Trent?
--Is she a niece that came along for the move to Arkansas to help care for his family after the death of wife Pernina?
(FYI: The closest niece I've found with the name of Sarah is the daughter of Timothy Carpenter Guthery, Young's youngest sibling.)
NOTE: I've found three contrary bits of information that might discount Timothy's daughter as the Sarah listed in the 1860 U.S. Federal Census for Park Township, Scott County, Arkansas living in Young Guthery's household:
-- Timothy's Sarah, born about 1844, would have been 16, not 18.
-- Timothy's Sarah was born in Indiana, not Missouri
-- Timothy's Sarah is listed as a member of Timothy's household for the 1860 census for Jefferson Township, Greene County, Indiana. (If I'm reading the dates on the census reports correctly, there wasn't enough time for Timothy's Sarah to have traveled from Young's household in Arkansas to return home to her father's household in Indiana to be in both census records, or vice versa.)

--She is not Young's daughter, Sarah, as his 16-year-old daughter, Sarah, is also showing in that same 1860 census report
--Is she a family friend from back in Missouri that is caring for his children, perhaps a friend of daughter, Polly, who is also 18-years-old?

--Is she perhaps an unwed or widowed mother who came to Arkansas with Young and his son, John Wesley, and John W's wife, Rebecca O'Bannion, (who also show on the 1860 census for Park Township, Scott, Arkansas, just below Young's household members), to possibly help take care of Young's household? (Please see my fourth point below as to why I might refer to her as perhaps an unwed mother.)

NOTE: I ruled out that she might be the wife of a Civil War soldier away at war, as the Civil War didn't start until April 12, 1861.

I may be missing something but this Sarah seems to disappear after the 1860 U.S. Federal Census.

Added by S.Tucker on Aug 26, 2014 10:55 PM

S.Tucker
Young Guthery
SECOND:
DO YOU KNOW THE DEATH DATE OF PERNINA EMELINE/EMALINE MULLINEX, YOUNG GUTHERY'S FIRST WIFE?

NOTES:
1) Bob Guthery, a descendant of Young & Pernina's son, Nathaniel Hagan Guthery, shows Pernina died in 1852, based on his family records.
(I've also seen other family trees showing Pernina died in 1852, so perhaps there is some source information I don't have that might help give a definite answer, at least to the exact year she died.)

2) My mother's & grandmother's records showed she died in 1857, shortly after giving birth to namesake daughter, Pernina Emeline, in 1857.

(FYI: 1857 may be a "guesstimate" on Mom's/Grandma's part, assuming Elizabeth and Pernina were both Young and Pernina's children, and calculating Pernina was alive in 1857 in order to give birth to her namesake daughter.)

Added by S.Tucker on Aug 26, 2014 10:41 PM

S.Tucker
RE: Elizabeth Jane Guthery Tilley
Thanks! Here goes:

FIRST, might you have any more information on Young Guthery's mother, his paternal and maternal grandparents or other Guthery ancestors?
--Two other Guthrie/Guthery cousins and I are trying to research the Guthery line further beyond George Guthery, the father of Young Guthery, but we can't seem to find information on George Guthery's parents to get the family line moving again. It is thought George came from Virginia, but there's also hints he may be from Salem, Massachusetts. (Note: I have found other George Guthery men from Virginia, with same birth & death dates, but different spouses and/or children.)
--We believe George's spouse's name was Mary. We suspect her maiden name may have been Young, but we have no proof, other than its common use in names down thru her posterity. We can't seem to find a tie-in by following her possible family line and then working back around to the Guthery family.
--Per a Guthrie DNA Project through Family Tree DNA, it shows the following at the URL link below:
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/guthrie/default.aspx?section=results

GUTHRIE FAMILY GROUP 11: BALLEW/BALLOU
"There are currently 3 genetic matches in this group whose Guthrie lineage can be traced back to 1769 Virginia. However, their most common surname matches are that of the Ballew/Ballou surname. This suggests a genetic break in the Guthrie line through a paternal event sired by a Ballew/Ballou male or adoption of a Ballew/Ballou child into the Guthrie family. Research challenges for this Guthrie line include identifying the historical Guthrie lineage to which they belong, as well as the likely generation the paternal event or adoption occurred."

In summary:
--Do you have any information you can provide that might be helpful on George Guthery, such as his parents/grandparents, etc?
--Do you know the name of George's spouse? Do you have her vital information and lineage?
--Do you have any information about a Ballew/Ballou link with the Guthery line?

Added by S.Tucker on Aug 26, 2014 10:36 PM

S.Tucker
Elizabeth Jane Guthery Tilley
Guyetta,

Like you, I am a descendant of Young Guthery. I sent you an email on 08/14/14 asking if you might have further information on Elizabeth Jane Guthery, her father Young Guthery, and possible mother, Pernina Emeline/Emaline Mullenix.

Please check your inbox and junk mail to see if you received it. I would love to review Elizabeth and her parents with you, if possible.

Thanks,

Your cousin, Sharlene (Peel) Tucker

LOD: Sharlene Peel - Berneice Robinson - Bernice Guthrie - William Sherman Guthrie - Young Guthery - George Guthery

Added by S.Tucker on Aug 25, 2014 5:27 PM

Jacqueline Boswell
Charles McBride Hiser
Charles McBride Hiser's daughter, Eliza Estella Hiser is my grandfather's mother. Eliza married James Henry Boswell. I'm trying to find more info on James Henry Boswell. Any info is appreciated.

Thank You,
Jacqueline Boswell@ wjacqueline12@yahoo.com

Added by Jacqueline Boswell on May 03, 2014 12:03 PM

Nancy Charlton
Bible Cemetery
Guyetta, I do not know the road number, I know there is a sign there that says "The Oaks" my husband said to go to the first section line one mile east of the Binger Y. If I knew when you were coming I would try to meet you somewhere and show you. Keep in touch and I will try to get that road number.
Nancy

Added by Nancy Charlton on Apr 06, 2014 12:45 PM

Carlie Williams
RE: 111204780 - John Balma
All taken care of

Added by Carlie Williams on Sep 14, 2013 2:10 AM

Carlie Williams
RE: 111204808 - Frances R. Balma
Hello
Sorry I have been too sick to take care of the memorials I have added. I have made the changes to Frances Balma.

Carlie

Added by Carlie Williams on Sep 14, 2013 2:08 AM

Carlie Williams
RE: 111204808 - Frances R. Balma
Thank you for your help . I usually have all the information. I am in the hospital and adding photos and adding names. I add the name first add the picture next then all the information last .

THank you for you assistance I really appreciate it though

Added by Carlie Williams on May 27, 2013 2:25 PM

Carlie Williams
RE: 111204780 - John Balma
I will look and see what you are talking about but you should message me in the edit box above the photo on the memorial. That way it is not seen on the comments section. Thank you and I will look into it.

Added by Carlie Williams on May 27, 2013 2:19 PM

Nancy Charlton
Tidwell in Hinton
Guyetta hope you did not think I was complaining when I asked you to use the edit tab. I have so many Memorials's that it makes it easier to fix the problem. I sure did appreciate the added information on William Tidwell.

Nancy

Added by Nancy Charlton on Mar 30, 2013 6:02 PM

Larry Mabra
Chester Nix
Got the typo fixed. In the future please use the edit tab on the memorial to get your suggestions. It gives me the memorial number so I don't have to search for it

Added by Larry Mabra on Jan 27, 2013 2:08 PM

Dennis Bell
RE: Frank & Ireta McKee Faidley
Sorry it took me so long to transfer these to you. My wife, who handled all the Find A Grave memorials, passed away and I am just now getting back into the swing of things. If there are others that you need transferred or have questions just give me a yell.

Dennis

Added by Dennis Bell on Jan 24, 2013 1:53 PM

Mary Ann Baggett Ferguson
Akins @ Carmel
Carmel is one of the very old cemeteries and it does have soooooo many unmarked graves in it. sad but true. There are many Akins there.

Added by Mary Ann Baggett Ferguso... on Dec 30, 2012 12:20 PM

Mary Ann Baggett Ferguson
James Akins
Where did your James Akins live? in Cleburne, Cherokee or Calhoun co.? I have the cemetery books for calhoun co. at my home and will be glad to look in them for any Akins. Thank you for your kind words and prayers. Losing a child is one of the worst things possible for a parent to experience!! They are greatly appreciated. After I beat this cancer I hope to be back to working on f.a.g. every day like I used to do. I sure miss working on it and walking the cemeteries for hours on end taking photos. If I can help w/anything here, just let me know and I'll try to help you. Have a blessed day and a Happy New Year!!

Added by Mary Ann Baggett Ferguso... on Dec 30, 2012 12:08 PM

Linda Nix (Winn) Black
Taylor County AND Jones....
Most of Abilene is located in Taylor County, but the far north part near the Phantom Ridge Lake Area, is actually located in Jones County. Find A Grave and Wikipedia both indicate that in their cemetery location information, and resource documentation.
Linda

Added by Linda Nix (Winn) Black on Dec 01, 2012 1:20 PM

Linda Nix (Winn) Black
Winn's @ Potosi
Thank you so much for the family transfers.
Linda

Added by Linda Nix (Winn) Black on Dec 01, 2012 1:28 AM

Linda Nix (Winn) Black
Henry C. & Dora Bell Winn
My Dad's Winn Grandparents. No problem... I used the edit Tabs and had trouble with email for past 3 days... so, that could be the problem.
Henry Winn's Find A Grave # is:73350804
Dora Bell Leming's Find A Grave # is: 73351276

Thank you so much for all you do!
Hugs!
Linda
Find A Grave# 47294444

Added by Linda Nix (Winn) Black on Nov 30, 2012 12:49 PM

Linda Nix (Winn) Black
My Great Grandparents
Hi!
Maybe you didn't get my email via of the correction tab, but I would sure appreciate the transfer of my Great Grandparents so I can finish their Memorials with complete obituaries, and more pictures that relatives are sneding me.
Thanks for all you do for Find A Grave!
Linda Nix Winn Black
Find A Grave #47294444

Added by Linda Nix (Winn) Black on Nov 29, 2012 8:52 PM

Vivian Pattee
RE: James Doss 1742-1813
my aunt has done the family tree here she will be very excited to hear where he is buried :) my mother was a Doss

Added by Vivian Pattee on Nov 14, 2012 3:05 PM

Linda Nix (Winn) Black
Nix Transfers
Thank you so much for the Nis transfers! You are definitely appreciated.
Hugs. Linda

Added by Linda Nix (Winn) Black on Sep 30, 2012 1:02 AM

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