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Edjperkins (#47298552)
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Barb OD
RE: Harlan Perkins
In large families, and rural area it seems that happened often.

His Woodwards moved to Wisconsin where they married into the Justice family and for generations intermarried. Its like trying to figure out a jigsaw puzzle to know the realtionship!

Added by Barb OD on Aug 16, 2013 1:12 AM

Barb OD
RE: Harlan Perkins
Wow, that is wonderful.

Well lets see, Lucy's brother, Abner Tarbell Woodward married Phoebe Lyman. Their child, Orator Frank Woodward.

Orator Frank Woodward was not quite 6 years old in 1856 when the Confederate States of America was formed. He was the son of an itinerant book peddler and his father died at the age of 43 fighting as a soldier in the Civil War. Orator grew up in the Village of LeRoy. He quit school at the age of 12, deciding that he would rather earn a living than go to school. He worked as a stable boy and as a footman for an attorney. At the age of 13, he began inventing things to sell. His first success was a medicated nest egg that killed the lice that plagued hens as they were laying and hatching eggs.

With the money from this success, he married Cora Talmage in 1882. Their family immediately grew with the first of four sons born nine months later. After Ernest, five more children were born, Orator Frank Jr., Paul Wilbur, Eleanore Emily, Donald, and Helen.

Orator continued to invent and market proprietary medicines, such as Sherman's Headache Remedy and Raccoon Corn Plasters. His biggest success before Jell-O was Grain-O, a roasted cereal substitute for coffee and tea.

In 1899, Orator paid Pearl B. Wait $450 for the Jell-O formula, and a year later the product first appeared under the Genesee Pure Food Company label. Two years later sales of Jell-O amounted to $250,000. Orator did not live long to enjoy his fortune. He suffered a slight stroke, his condition deteriorated, and he died in January 1906. He was 49 years old.

If you look on the internet for the Jello history you will find it.

He became a VERY rich man (much unlike the Woodwards connected to my husbands family) :)

Added by Barb OD on Aug 15, 2013 10:56 AM

Barb OD
RE: Harlan Perkins
Wonderful to make connections with ancestors with such a rich history!

And I am sure you have heard to Woodward family history related to Jello?

If not let me know and I will tell you.

Added by Barb OD on Aug 15, 2013 8:26 AM

Barb OD
RE: Harlan Perkins
His wife (Lucy Maria Woodward) is my husbands great Aunt.

What I sent to you is his birthdate and place information, it is Connecticut Town Birth Record. Shows him born 31 of October 1796 in Canterbury, Connecticut.

Added by Barb OD on Aug 15, 2013 7:11 AM

c smith
Followup to further questions:
RE: Unmarked or not visible?
First, I did not realize I needed a memorial number to thank you for taking a picture.

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Second, my mistake (I guess) for assuming the grave was unmarked. I do not know one way or the other, as I did not attend her funeral, and am no longer in contact with this part of my family. Knowing this family, it is very possible they may have not purchased a marker for their mother.

<< What ever, I provided a office phone number or email for more research if needed. -smith>>
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Lastly, I am not quite sure what you mean by this statement, "Last, the office will have more burial information if there is even one, at (313) 365-3207 or email" Are you questioning the fact that she is even buried there? Ed Pekins.

<< As simple as possible, I only know what I see with details of what you request. By experience, I no longer identify a grave as "unmarked" because I do not know what lies beneath that is the cemetery's job to find, raise, or declare no headstone.

This is an old cemetery with a lot of headstones that are no longer visible. Also, once long ago there was a fire in the office and records were lost. After the fire record were slowly being restored, so the office will have more information.

A little more extra news, 15 miles away, I started to help the photo volunteers in the area because there was over 500 photo requests about two weeks ago and now we are down to about 300.

In one case I received a request with a receipt of a military headstone to find in the cemetery.

The office and myself just do not have enough time or words to say what we done or could do to help find the missing marker. Finding missing graves and markers is an on going job for the cemetery. If everyone would just understand that without "correct" burial information nothing will get done, volunteers are limited with time, and there is not enough help to explain every last problem that is beneath the surface of being a photo volunteer.

Hopefully my unqualified opinions will help to understand the facts and truths to those who need to further this research. >>
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Have a nice day.

Added by c smith on Aug 02, 2013 10:35 PM

Kathy Lutzke
This person listed in previous entry should not be allowed to be part of Find A Grave. He leaves unprofessional messages with people who only wish to locate their loved ones. I left a public message for him and he deleted so no one can read how he treats other human beings.

This is my response to him:
RE: Burial location is missing.
With respect to Barbara Dinan, I followed up with my response- to you- by email. I advised that Barbara and her husband are buried in Section 41, lot 76. THIS IS THE BURIAL INFORMATION that the cemetery provided to me.

Your response is inappropriate; that "I need to do some work on my own" and that volunteers "will not run around with your request".

I suggest you have professionalism when communicating with others. It's insulting to suggest to ANYONE they we need to do some work on their own.

Use some tact in your responses to others please

Added by Kathy Lutzke on Aug 02, 2013 8:15 AM

c smith
Unmarked or not visible?
Original note:"Thank you for trying to take the picture of my great Aunt Martha. I did not know she is in an unmarked grave!"
First, please use memorial numbers and last names to help find the subject.

Second, I do not state, "unmarked grave" because there are a lot of buried headstones in this old cemetery and I just take photos. I do state, no visible markers in area of the photo given.

Last, the office will have more burial information if there is even one, at (313) 365-3207 or email

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Added by c smith on Aug 02, 2013 6:47 AM

paul babiuk
RE: Edith Crane Photo

Glad that I could help. FYI, I took and posted pics of the entire Crane family at this plot.

take care,

Added by paul babiuk on Jul 27, 2013 9:11 AM

Keith Burkhead
RE: Thank you
The grave may have had a marker when it was new. There has been some vandalism over the years there and also some of the earlier markers were made only of concrete and many of them crumbled into sand after many years of weathering. The cemetery has done a good job of piecing back together the stones that have been damaged unless they were damaged beyond repair. There may have been other circumstances they prevented the family from placing a marker as well. It appears that when fathers died young for instance, the wife was left to raise the children and often there wasn't enough money to go around. Some families also lost members close together during some of the epidemics and also during the Depression some families struggled. I'm not sure any of these applied, but perhaps one of them did.

Added by Keith Burkhead on May 05, 2013 8:05 PM

Brian J. Ensley
RE: Antonino Micale
You're very welcome- glad I could help.

Added by Brian J. Ensley on Apr 03, 2013 5:56 PM

RE: John W. Perkins
Thank you for letting me know..I fixed it. Not sure how that happen.
Thanks again

Added by tammy on Oct 22, 2011 12:46 PM


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