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Betty & Dan
Jessie MacDonnell
Her death registration gave the information that she had been cremated at Hatley. Here is the link to the death registration:

However yesterday the staff at Hatley reported there is no record of either a cremation nor a burial for her.

The Hatley staff recommended contacting the funeral director identified on the death registration as Sands Funeral Chapel, 1803 Quadra St., Victoria, BC V8T 4B8 Ph: 250-388-5155


Given that you are a relative Sands might give you more information. It may well be that her cremated remains were interred with her husband at Veterans' Cemetery (but without a marker) as you had first thought.

Let us know if Sands has a different burial location for her - we'd be glad to see if we can find the marker.

Added by Betty & Dan on Nov 02, 2014 4:44 PM

Ron Roberson
Jacob Kolb
Sorry to bear so much bad news today! But I went to Section A, Lot 175 to look for the grave of Jacob Kolb. Unfortunately his grave is marked, as are the graves of two other family members beside him. I could post a photo showing another grave with the site of his just beyond it, but it's only a patch of grass. I'll leave it up to you to decide, just let me know.

Added by Ron Roberson on Oct 04, 2014 1:46 PM

Ron Roberson
Ignatius Knott
Hi, at Glenwood today I also went to Section N, Lot 8, site 2 to look for the grave of Ignatius Knott. Unfortunately there are no markers in lot 8 at all. I could post a photo showing one grave in Lot 7 and the area next to it covered in grass. But I leave it up to you to decide if that's a good idea, or if it's better just to say the grave is unmarked. Sorry....but I counted 9 people in that lot with no markers.

Added by Ron Roberson on Oct 04, 2014 1:43 PM

Source for general information
Also check out familysearch dot org. They have transcriptions of many DC records plus lots more for other states. For instance they have the Texas Death Certificates scanned and on line.

For DC they did have the death certificates on line and then they pulled the on line access. There is still access - it just has to be in person at a Family History Library.

Sometimes the agency that holds the original record puts restrictions on putting the information on line. I heard about HIPAA being used at a genealogy group recently. The person requesting the death certificate received the death certificate, but the information about cause of death, parents, spouse, etc. was whited out. Then there is also the issue of privacy for survivors in case the parents or spouse are still living. Agencies have begun to be overly cautious.

Added by SLGMSD on Sep 17, 2014 8:23 PM

RE: Edward Charles Kosack 100740964
A good source for free newspapers for the District of Columbia and other states is Chronicling America which is hosted by the Library of Congress:

If you are interested in Oregon or California there are two universities that host a free website for newspapers. Let me know if you are interested and I can send the links.

Check the database listing for your city, county and local university/college libraries. My city library has on line access to GenealogyBank that I can access with my library card number and pin. My county library has on line access to NewspaperArchives (which has decreased many of its offerings) which I can also access with my library card number and pin. I don't have on line access to the local university libraries, but I can check their databases for that they have available and go in person if I need to. Most of them have newspapers on microfilm. You would be surprised at how many local as well as out of state historical newspapers the university/colleges have available on microfilm.

I can also access on line the historical NYT from my county library.

So, check out the databases from the library websites first - your tax dollars fund them. One word of advice - the individual subscription to GenealogyBank has more newspapers than the library edition. I would not recommend a personal subscription to NewspaperArchives - there is information on line about why.

If you subscribe to OR if you use it at the library you can use the Card Catalog. Choose Search from the top bar. Card Catalog is at the bottom. On the menu for Card Catalog look to the left. The 5th selection is Newspapers... Pick Newspapers and it takes you to a page where Historical Newspapers is the second selection. This database has the NYT, LA Times, Boston Globe, WA Post, etc. It is similar to a database that was offered by ProQuest some years ago if you are familiar with ProQuest.

Added by SLGMSD on Sep 17, 2014 2:19 PM

Betty & Dan
Jessie MacDonnell's son
We notice that there is still a Laurence A. MacDonnell living at
4075 Grange Road,
Victoria, BC
V8Z 4V6
as was given in her death registration) - His phone number listed is 250-479-6561

Added by Betty & Dan on Aug 21, 2014 12:57 PM

Betty & Dan
RE: Jessie MacDonnell nee Sara
You're very welcome.

We looked up Jessie MacDonnell's death registration [on the BC Archives site {} and she was buried at Hatley Memorial Gardens on 15 Dec 1992. There is a dedicated photo volunteer that responds to photo requests at Hatley in a very timely manner. We suggest you make a memorial page and do a photo request.

Date of Birth: 19 Nov 1899 Liverpool, England
Date of Death: 12 Dec 1992 Victoria, BC

Informant was son L. A. MacDonnell of 4075 Grange Road in Victoria (Postal Code V8Z 4V6). He said Jessie's parents were [no first name] MacDonnell (father) and Sara William (mother) - doesn't sound correct?

Added by Betty & Dan on Aug 17, 2014 6:55 AM

Betty & Dan
MacDonnell - Photo of Grave Marker
We took a close-up of his daughter's gravemarker too. "Carell Haynes Mar. 6 1921 - July 30, 2012. Loving Daughter of Horace and Jessie MacDonnell"
If you'd like to create a memorial page, we'd be glad to upload the photo of her gravemarker as well. Her obit reads as follows:

"Carell Haynes
March 6, 1921 July 30, 2012 HAYNES CARELL

Born in Thunder Bay, Ontario in 1921. Late of Seton Villa, Burnaby, BC. Died at Burnaby Hospital July 30, 2012. Mourned by sons Brian and Roger Haynes; and daughter-in-law Adrianne, grandchildren Richard (Michelle) and Aaron (Wendy), family and countless friends. During her life CARELL was a secretary for a counselling agency, She became attached to several churches and was a gregarious social person concerned for others. Requiem Mass will be celebrated by Rev'd Fathers Al Hyndman and Michael Feit at our Lady of the Nativity Old Catholic Oratory, 8642 Harvie Road (Port Kells), Surrey, BC on Saturday, August 18, 2012 at 12 noon, lunch following (PH 604-882-8566) Interemnt at Gorgevale Victoria. Donations in memory welcomed by Canadian Comfort Society, 1185 Wychbury Ave, Victoria BC V9A5L1.

Published in Vancouver Sun and/or The Province on Aug. 14, 2012"

Added by Betty & Dan on Aug 16, 2014 5:29 PM

Ron Roberson
RE: C. M. Keys
You're very welcome. And yes there were several other members of the Keys family buried in the same plot. There are separate stones in the ground for:
Hannah Frances Keys 1848-1933
Charles Fendley Keys 1853-1914
Sarah Elizabeth Keys 1883-1947
Olive Marguerit Keys 1890-1966
Charles F. Keys 1852-1914
And also for Charles M's wife, I think Mary Ann.
I didn't check to see if memorials already exist for any of these people. But I'd be happy to post the photos...I'd only ask that you sent out a request for each one so I'll get credit on the site for responding to them. Thanks!

Added by Ron Roberson on Aug 16, 2014 9:54 AM

RE: Louisa Beach Baum
It could have sunk into the ground. There was a project in a NYC cemetery to mark the graves of Civil War veterans. When they went to install the new markers in many cases they found the old ones sunk into the ground!

Added by SLGMSD on Jul 27, 2014 11:23 AM

David E Craig
RE: Smith Family
Thank you very much for helping me identify all the honored loved ones in the Smith, Harrison, Wright family. Thank you for posting and photographing their graves. Blessings and Prayers /Rev. David E Craig

Added by David E Craig on Jul 19, 2014 7:33 PM

David E Craig
Thank you so much for taking these picture so fast. It was a great help. Blessings/David

Added by David E Craig on Jul 16, 2014 8:15 PM

There is definitely a mystery here. I looked up the address - in 1909 George L. is listed at the same address. Did he inherit the residence from Louise Beach Baum?

Added by SLGMSD on Jul 07, 2014 6:50 PM

Louisa Dora Beach Baum
Find A Grave Memorial# 100877121

The death certificate on states she is widowed.

The Evening Star: Mrs. Louisa Baum

The Evening Star: Louisa D. Baum (nee Beach)

I am not convinced that someone who is widowed with a maiden name of Beach is the same person as the Louisa Baum who is the daughter of George Baum.

Added by SLGMSD on Jul 07, 2014 6:39 PM

Sandy Flourance
Rose Merriam Bell
Thanks so much for adding the stone for my grandmother to FindaGrave. I was grateful to find I didn't need to do it myself. Your work in doing this is greatly appreciated.

Sandra Bell Flourance

Added by Sandy Flourance on May 11, 2014 8:43 PM

Kathy Sturgess Ouimet
Wilson transfers
Thanks so much for the transfer of Sarah and John Wilson. I so appreciate it and your efforts on Findagrave.

Added by Kathy Sturgess Ouimet on May 07, 2014 6:00 PM

Dal Mallory
RE: Muse
Yes, saw Gladys. Was there a Sturgis in that section? Don't know where C. Virginia Muse Sturgis is buried.

Added by Dal Mallory on Apr 25, 2014 6:08 AM

Keith McDonald
RE: Lucy Herrell 81457969
it is one of those annoying things.

doing a search as mcdaniel, found 2 marriage records, same names/dates but one as taking place loudoun county, other as clarke county. maybe one was for license and other is ceremony.

at first i would say same person, on my lucy, 1870 census as mcdonald in warren county, 1880 as mcdaniel in clarke, so marriage rec as born clarke county could be a mistake as from clarke county as she was living there at the time.

but, my lucy parents are william and robert ann, and this marriage record has thos. r and fannie e, so that throws a wrench in the works. looks like somewhere along the way someone linked in the wrong family.

the headache is looping back around, my lucy birthdate matches the gravestone of lucy harrell who married zolisopher, so am not sure if that date was given to her as a result of finding the marriage, or if the marriage was found as a result of having the birthdate...

Added by Keith McDonald on Mar 23, 2014 9:47 AM

Hope Snead
What a surprise to see my aunts memorial today. I was updating her bio and linking her husbands. I want to thank you for photographing Hope Snead's memorial at Columbia Gardens Cemetery and adding it to the Find a Grave web site. I truly owe you a debt of gratitude for your efforts on this.
Very respectfully, Marie

Added by Marie on Mar 09, 2014 9:19 AM

Margot Hudson
Ida ClarkTaylor
Thank you very much for the transfer. You work on Find A grave is appreciated very much!

Added by Margot Hudson on Feb 24, 2014 7:19 AM

Phillip Gossage
Naomi Gossage
Thanks for the headstone photo of my aunt, Naomi Gossage and her daughter Mary Gossage Wainwright. I just learned of Mary's death today.
Duke Gossage

Added by Phillip Gossage on Feb 23, 2014 8:47 PM

What a cool photo!
Love the photo you have posted above on your profile page. It is beautiful in so many regards, but seeing it full size revealed the surprise.


Added by J.Sullivan on Feb 05, 2014 11:26 AM

RE: Alice Deuterman
Thank you for the collaboration :) It's very helpful for me and my tree.

Added by Balto on Jan 17, 2014 8:03 AM

RE: Alice Deuterman
ok - I got it.

Both of Joel H. Whitehead's wives had maiden name Taylor. He married Laura first. She gave him 3 children. If we trust her headstone then she died in 1874. There are already 2 children on the 1870 Census. Joel is married to Elizabeth in the 1880 along with his mother in law Ann Taylor.

1870 United States Federal Census
J H Whitehead 32 - This is Joel Hilber
L P Whitehead 23 - His First wife Laura Virginia Taylor
F L Whitehead 4 - Frances Whitehead
I O Whitehead 1 - Inez O. Whitehead
E A Taylor 46 - Male - Maybe be Laura's father.

So - Joel and Laura would have been married before 1870, perhaps around 1866 - Frances is 4 in 1870.

John was born in 1872 and according to her headstone Laura V. Taylor Whitehead died in 1874.

1880 United States Federal Census
Joel H. Whitehead 42 - Head of house
Elizabeth Whitehead 27 - Wife
Frances Whitehead 14
Inez O. Whitehead 11
John M. Whitehead 8
Anne Taylor 54 - Listed as Mother-in-law.

Alice (Whitehead) Deuterman had to have been Elizabeth's daughter if Laura's headstone is accurate and she died 1874.

Added by Balto on Jan 14, 2014 7:16 AM

RE: Alice Deuterman
I'll continue to work on finding the census records, but I think Laura was the second wife. I'll double check.


Added by Balto on Jan 14, 2014 6:48 AM


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