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Elizabeth Betsy <I>Ross</I> Carpenter

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Elizabeth Betsy Ross Carpenter

Birth
North Carolina, USA
Death
1866 (aged 73–74)
Owens Cross Roads, Madison County, Alabama, USA
Burial
Owens Cross Roads, Madison County, Alabama, USA Add to Map
Memorial ID
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Her grave was marked by an ancient cairn.
Some family researchers list her date of death as June 2, 1866 (source not stated).

See Stacy Mim' website: morethanjustacemetery dot com.

Betsy Ross Carpenter was the daughter of Francis and Katie Ross according to some family members, based on a confusing family record that stated Betsy was the sister of Mastin Ross, Sam Ross, and Rita Morrison (ref.,"Alabama Soldiers," by Pauline J. Gandrud & Bobbie J. McLane, vol. 4, p. 36, citing an October 1955 letter from Hester Carpenter Vann, who in turn cited her older sister, Laura Caroline Carpenter Worley, 1866-1957.) Another descendant stated, "We believe that her full name was Lucy Katherine Ross or Katherine Lucille 'Lucy' Ross. no proof, just a strong suspicion due to family stories etc."

Mastin Ross enlisted in the same company with Willis Carpenter, in Grainger County, Tennessee, during the War of 1812. Documentation is clear that Mastin Ross was the son of Charles and Lucy Ross of Grainger County who moved to Morgan County, Alabama, 1815-16 (on record May 11, 1819). Charles Ross was a Revolutionary War soldier from Virginia who returned with son Mastin to Tennessee after Lucy's death. Elizabeth Ross married Willis Carpenter in Grainger County, Tennessee, May 1, 1814, and they were the parents of 15 children. Their eldest daughter Diana was born in Alabama in 1819 according to the 1860 census, though most other censuses say circa 1820, one as late as 1822. On Feb. 5, 1821, Willis Carpenter was recorded in Cotaco County (renamed Morgan Co. later in 1821), the earliest documentation of him in Alabama after his 1813-14 war record which shows several months of service were spent at Ft. Strother.

The Carpenters and Rosses were said to have moved together from Tennessee to Morgan County, Alabama, 1815-16 based on the births of children, though no extant record has been found prior to that of Mastin Ross in Morgan County May 11, 1819 (Cotaco County Superior Court Book 1, pp. 165-66) and the 1821 record of Willis Carpenter referenced above. Charles Ross's 1824 affidavit in his pension file states that his wife, Mastin Ross' mother, had been bedridden for five years prior (1819), inferring that they were in Alabama before her confinement in 1819.

Elizabeth Ross married in Grainger County, Tennessee, May 1, 1814, to Willis Carpenter and moved to Alabama with her parents, the Rosses (ref. ALABAMA SOLDIERS by Pauline Gandrud, vol. 4, pp. 35-36). This was between December 1815 and 1817. They settled close to New Hope, Madison County, 12 miles from the county line of Cotaco County (now Morgan County). Willis and Betsy Carpenter are sometimes described as being the parents of 16 children, eight boys and eight girls, thirteen of which lived to adulthood. We know of fifteen children, seven boys and eight girls.

Customarily marriage banns were read aloud publicly in church on three consecutive Sundays. Valentine Moulder (1776-1833), a Baptist Minister, was also a Justice of the Peace for 40 years. The notice he filed in the Grainger County court is a document that shows permanent creases where it has been folded for nearly 200 years. On the outside: "The Within complied with by me, Valentine Molder."
Marriage
Bains
W. Charpenter May 3, 1814
E. Ross

"The within complied with" may mean that the marriage was performed as well as the thrice reading of the banns as required by law. This would agree with Willis Carpenter's statement that he married on May 1, 1814, immediately following the third reading of the banns in church. May 1, 1814, was a Sunday, and May 3rd was a Tuesday.

On reverse (inside):
Notice in red or brown ink at the top which says ... Elizabeth Ross...followed by a second notice in black ink below which spells her name Elisabeth Ross:

(faded brown ink on tom fold):
I Publish the Bains
of Marriage Between
O. Willis Charpenter
& Elizabeth Rofs

(black ink on bottom fold):
May 1st Day 1814
this is to certify that the
Baines of Marriage between
O. Willis Charpenter & Elisabeth Ross hath
been thrice published as the
Law Directs by me(.)
(signed) Valentine Molder, d.d.

The name appears to be written "O. Willis Charpenter" twice, the second time followed by an arrow type insertion indicator pointing to the line above where "& Elisabeth Ross" has been inserted. Her name is spelled Elizabeth the first time and Elisabeth the second.

The children of Willis Carpenter & Betsy Ross were:
1. James Madison Carpenter (1814-1890)
2. John C. Carpenter (1815-1874)
3. Katie Carpenter 1817 AL., died young
4. Willis O. Carpenter, born Aug. 10, 1818 AL, d. 1905 in Choctaw Dist., Oklahoma (some show him as Willis C. Carpenter)
5. Diana ("Dicy") Carpenter Walls Provence born 1819-21 AL
6. Gideon Carpenter born 1822 died young
7. Meshach Carpenter, born 1824 Al.
8. Sarah, born 1825 Al. married Lewis Miller
9. Thomas born 2-13-1826
10. Elizabeth (Betsy) born 1830 Al, married Silas Madison Hunt (b.1827 AL)
11. Francis Jane Carpenter Baker (1831 - 1920)
12. Martha born 1832 Al. married William Honea
13. William Lewis Carpenter, born 1833 Al
14. Nancy Ann "Nina" Carpenter Parkhill(1835-1904)
15. Caroline Carpenter born 1840 Al, married John Minzy Byrd
Her grave was marked by an ancient cairn.
Some family researchers list her date of death as June 2, 1866 (source not stated).

See Stacy Mim' website: morethanjustacemetery dot com.

Betsy Ross Carpenter was the daughter of Francis and Katie Ross according to some family members, based on a confusing family record that stated Betsy was the sister of Mastin Ross, Sam Ross, and Rita Morrison (ref.,"Alabama Soldiers," by Pauline J. Gandrud & Bobbie J. McLane, vol. 4, p. 36, citing an October 1955 letter from Hester Carpenter Vann, who in turn cited her older sister, Laura Caroline Carpenter Worley, 1866-1957.) Another descendant stated, "We believe that her full name was Lucy Katherine Ross or Katherine Lucille 'Lucy' Ross. no proof, just a strong suspicion due to family stories etc."

Mastin Ross enlisted in the same company with Willis Carpenter, in Grainger County, Tennessee, during the War of 1812. Documentation is clear that Mastin Ross was the son of Charles and Lucy Ross of Grainger County who moved to Morgan County, Alabama, 1815-16 (on record May 11, 1819). Charles Ross was a Revolutionary War soldier from Virginia who returned with son Mastin to Tennessee after Lucy's death. Elizabeth Ross married Willis Carpenter in Grainger County, Tennessee, May 1, 1814, and they were the parents of 15 children. Their eldest daughter Diana was born in Alabama in 1819 according to the 1860 census, though most other censuses say circa 1820, one as late as 1822. On Feb. 5, 1821, Willis Carpenter was recorded in Cotaco County (renamed Morgan Co. later in 1821), the earliest documentation of him in Alabama after his 1813-14 war record which shows several months of service were spent at Ft. Strother.

The Carpenters and Rosses were said to have moved together from Tennessee to Morgan County, Alabama, 1815-16 based on the births of children, though no extant record has been found prior to that of Mastin Ross in Morgan County May 11, 1819 (Cotaco County Superior Court Book 1, pp. 165-66) and the 1821 record of Willis Carpenter referenced above. Charles Ross's 1824 affidavit in his pension file states that his wife, Mastin Ross' mother, had been bedridden for five years prior (1819), inferring that they were in Alabama before her confinement in 1819.

Elizabeth Ross married in Grainger County, Tennessee, May 1, 1814, to Willis Carpenter and moved to Alabama with her parents, the Rosses (ref. ALABAMA SOLDIERS by Pauline Gandrud, vol. 4, pp. 35-36). This was between December 1815 and 1817. They settled close to New Hope, Madison County, 12 miles from the county line of Cotaco County (now Morgan County). Willis and Betsy Carpenter are sometimes described as being the parents of 16 children, eight boys and eight girls, thirteen of which lived to adulthood. We know of fifteen children, seven boys and eight girls.

Customarily marriage banns were read aloud publicly in church on three consecutive Sundays. Valentine Moulder (1776-1833), a Baptist Minister, was also a Justice of the Peace for 40 years. The notice he filed in the Grainger County court is a document that shows permanent creases where it has been folded for nearly 200 years. On the outside: "The Within complied with by me, Valentine Molder."
Marriage
Bains
W. Charpenter May 3, 1814
E. Ross

"The within complied with" may mean that the marriage was performed as well as the thrice reading of the banns as required by law. This would agree with Willis Carpenter's statement that he married on May 1, 1814, immediately following the third reading of the banns in church. May 1, 1814, was a Sunday, and May 3rd was a Tuesday.

On reverse (inside):
Notice in red or brown ink at the top which says ... Elizabeth Ross...followed by a second notice in black ink below which spells her name Elisabeth Ross:

(faded brown ink on tom fold):
I Publish the Bains
of Marriage Between
O. Willis Charpenter
& Elizabeth Rofs

(black ink on bottom fold):
May 1st Day 1814
this is to certify that the
Baines of Marriage between
O. Willis Charpenter & Elisabeth Ross hath
been thrice published as the
Law Directs by me(.)
(signed) Valentine Molder, d.d.

The name appears to be written "O. Willis Charpenter" twice, the second time followed by an arrow type insertion indicator pointing to the line above where "& Elisabeth Ross" has been inserted. Her name is spelled Elizabeth the first time and Elisabeth the second.

The children of Willis Carpenter & Betsy Ross were:
1. James Madison Carpenter (1814-1890)
2. John C. Carpenter (1815-1874)
3. Katie Carpenter 1817 AL., died young
4. Willis O. Carpenter, born Aug. 10, 1818 AL, d. 1905 in Choctaw Dist., Oklahoma (some show him as Willis C. Carpenter)
5. Diana ("Dicy") Carpenter Walls Provence born 1819-21 AL
6. Gideon Carpenter born 1822 died young
7. Meshach Carpenter, born 1824 Al.
8. Sarah, born 1825 Al. married Lewis Miller
9. Thomas born 2-13-1826
10. Elizabeth (Betsy) born 1830 Al, married Silas Madison Hunt (b.1827 AL)
11. Francis Jane Carpenter Baker (1831 - 1920)
12. Martha born 1832 Al. married William Honea
13. William Lewis Carpenter, born 1833 Al
14. Nancy Ann "Nina" Carpenter Parkhill(1835-1904)
15. Caroline Carpenter born 1840 Al, married John Minzy Byrd


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