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James Brisbin

Birth
Scotland
Death
1781 (aged 74–75)
Saratoga County, New York, USA
Burial
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He married second Margaret Carruth in Scotland and was thought to be the first settler in Northumberland. In the "History of Saratoga County" by Nathaniel Bartlett Sylvestor 1878, Evert & Ensign P.401
James was a Cadet (descendant of the younger line) of the ancient and historic Family of the BRISBANE of Bishoptoun(Renfrewshire) and Brisbane (Largs, Ayrshire), Scotland, and heads a cadet branch of that family. James and his family left Scotland about 1737 and settled in Northern Ireland, probably in Tyrone County. As early as the year 1765, James Brisbin, a native of Scotland, came to what is now Northumberland, then Saratoga, New York, and settled about one and a half miles westerly of Fort Miller,towards Bacon Hill. His first wife died in Scotland, and his two sons were born there, William and Samuel, about the same time settled in what is now Wilton, in the Laing neighborhood. James Brisbin for his second wife married in Scotland, Margaret Carruth, a somewhat remarkable woman. By her he had the following children: Margaret C., died in Scotland; Elizabeth; John, who settled in Old Saratoga in 1771; Margaret, who married Conrad Cramer; Carruth; James, who married Mary Taylor of Argyle, Washington County; Robert; and Jane. History of Saratoga County by Sylvester that has been cited previously.

Yet in the correspondence between Miss Louise Brisbin of Glen Falls, New York, and Samuel G. Taylor, Jr., already cited, Miss Brisbin definitely lists "Mary Brisbin, who married Augustus Seelye" among the children of James and Margaret. The records of the Church of Schaghticoke in Rensselaer County, New York, show the births of five children to Augustus Seelye and Mary Brisbin between the dates of 20 October 1774 and 14 June 1784, 82 and these same records contain notations of births of children to James Brisbin and Mary Taylor, John Brisbin and Mary McCann, John McCarthy and Jane Brisbin, William Brisbin and Elizabeth Ferguson, and Conrad Cramer and Margaret Brisbin. It is therefore the definite opinion of the author that Mary Brisbin must be included as a full-fledged daughter of James Brisbin and Margaret Carruth and sister of the other Brisbins recorded at Schaghticoke. Thee may have been reason why the author has been unable to discover a close association between Seelyes and Brisbins following the American Revolution. In a centennial publication at Toronto (Rose Publishing Company), Ontario, Canada, in 1885 called The United Empire Loyalists' Centennial Celebration (settlement of Upper Canada by the United Empire Loyalists) there appears an "Old List as preserved in the Crown Lands Department at Toronto." On this list of Loyalists is shown the name of Augustus Seelye as being in the East District of Lancaster with a wife and nine children, with the notation "Provision List—Eastern District—1786." If this Augustus Seelye is identical with the one who married Mary Brisbin, this is good evidence indeed for the reason why there may have been lack of communication. If Mary Brisbin was the daughter of James and Margaret Carruth, she would have been born either ca. 1740 or ca. 1744, in either case being able to marry and have four children before the birth of the five already noted in the Schaghticoke Church records. In such case the appearance of nine children in Upper Canada makes complete genealogical sense. Please see https://www.geni.com/people/Admiral-James-Brisbin/6000000026001374427?through=6000000011998155909 for detailed information about this family.
He married second Margaret Carruth in Scotland and was thought to be the first settler in Northumberland. In the "History of Saratoga County" by Nathaniel Bartlett Sylvestor 1878, Evert & Ensign P.401
James was a Cadet (descendant of the younger line) of the ancient and historic Family of the BRISBANE of Bishoptoun(Renfrewshire) and Brisbane (Largs, Ayrshire), Scotland, and heads a cadet branch of that family. James and his family left Scotland about 1737 and settled in Northern Ireland, probably in Tyrone County. As early as the year 1765, James Brisbin, a native of Scotland, came to what is now Northumberland, then Saratoga, New York, and settled about one and a half miles westerly of Fort Miller,towards Bacon Hill. His first wife died in Scotland, and his two sons were born there, William and Samuel, about the same time settled in what is now Wilton, in the Laing neighborhood. James Brisbin for his second wife married in Scotland, Margaret Carruth, a somewhat remarkable woman. By her he had the following children: Margaret C., died in Scotland; Elizabeth; John, who settled in Old Saratoga in 1771; Margaret, who married Conrad Cramer; Carruth; James, who married Mary Taylor of Argyle, Washington County; Robert; and Jane. History of Saratoga County by Sylvester that has been cited previously.

Yet in the correspondence between Miss Louise Brisbin of Glen Falls, New York, and Samuel G. Taylor, Jr., already cited, Miss Brisbin definitely lists "Mary Brisbin, who married Augustus Seelye" among the children of James and Margaret. The records of the Church of Schaghticoke in Rensselaer County, New York, show the births of five children to Augustus Seelye and Mary Brisbin between the dates of 20 October 1774 and 14 June 1784, 82 and these same records contain notations of births of children to James Brisbin and Mary Taylor, John Brisbin and Mary McCann, John McCarthy and Jane Brisbin, William Brisbin and Elizabeth Ferguson, and Conrad Cramer and Margaret Brisbin. It is therefore the definite opinion of the author that Mary Brisbin must be included as a full-fledged daughter of James Brisbin and Margaret Carruth and sister of the other Brisbins recorded at Schaghticoke. Thee may have been reason why the author has been unable to discover a close association between Seelyes and Brisbins following the American Revolution. In a centennial publication at Toronto (Rose Publishing Company), Ontario, Canada, in 1885 called The United Empire Loyalists' Centennial Celebration (settlement of Upper Canada by the United Empire Loyalists) there appears an "Old List as preserved in the Crown Lands Department at Toronto." On this list of Loyalists is shown the name of Augustus Seelye as being in the East District of Lancaster with a wife and nine children, with the notation "Provision List—Eastern District—1786." If this Augustus Seelye is identical with the one who married Mary Brisbin, this is good evidence indeed for the reason why there may have been lack of communication. If Mary Brisbin was the daughter of James and Margaret Carruth, she would have been born either ca. 1740 or ca. 1744, in either case being able to marry and have four children before the birth of the five already noted in the Schaghticoke Church records. In such case the appearance of nine children in Upper Canada makes complete genealogical sense. Please see https://www.geni.com/people/Admiral-James-Brisbin/6000000026001374427?through=6000000011998155909 for detailed information about this family.


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